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re: OT Workout #Gainz Krewe: Frick a back squat, Front Squat is for real men

Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:28 pm to
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I do back squat, lunges, leg press, single leg machine extensions, leg curls and calf raises on leg days. Sometimes I feel I should be doing more, legs are no longer as burnt as they used to be after this routine.


Either you're a monster bodybuilder that needs oodles of muscle stimulation....or most likely you're just not pushing yourself hard enough and/or not varying your sets/reps/weight enough.

That is PLENTY leg work for one day. I can just back squat one day and be destroyed for a couple of days.
Posted by Big Saint
Houston
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:32 pm to
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That is PLENTY leg work for one day. I can just back squat one day and be destroyed for a couple of days.


What does that routine look like out of curiosity? I'm all for simplifying my gym time.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:34 pm to
Front squats are underutilized. The really attack your quads and back in a way unique from regular squats. They are particularly difficult and should be utilized for that reason. I submit that one should use both. Neither is bad, and both are better than deadlifts at the end of the day (lolz, I just am not a huge fan of deads, but I do them).
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:54 pm to
My queerbait/weakmofo alarm went off. What are you pussies talking about in here?
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:55 pm to
I don't really have any set routines, but something as simple as a 5x5 squat routine, doing proper depth squats, and lifting heavy enough weight to push you to the limit (of course you need a spotter for this) will destroy most novice to intermediate lifters.

Posted by Big Saint
Houston
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:59 pm to
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but something as simple as a 5x5 squat routine,


This is true. 5x5 squats got tough as you get up in weight.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:02 pm to
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disagree.

your hips are in an odd position with one of your extremities being propped up on something else.

significantly higher chance for injury.

I wont even do them.


There are tons of lifts that put your joints in odd angles. The issue becomes when the angles create detrimental strains or stresses on your joints/muscles.

What are you worried about injuring with split squats? I literally don't even know what you could injure.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:05 pm to
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While I agree with most of your assessment and upvoted your post, most people also severely lack good posture and can't even do a proper front squat without falling on their face, due to any number of muscle imbalances and deficiencies.

The Front squat is a great way to strengthen your midsection and develop better form for any type of squat. The people who hate front squats hate them because they can't get into proper position due to lack of mobility and whatever other muscle imbalances. I think it's a must to front squat regularly.

But yes, people tend to be quad dominant and need to do a shitload more deadlifts and whatnot regularly also.


Yea this is a really good post.

While front squats are more quad-dominant, they can REALLY expose other issues in your posterior chain. It is almost impossible to truly sit into a front squat without a strong posterior chain, a tight upper back, and really good hip mobility.

Once you fix those, then yea it's very quad dominant, but most will fail in those before they fail with their quads.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:29 pm to
Screw front squat. If I want to develop my quads, I'm doing leg extensions and lunges.

Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10423 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 6:00 pm to
Love front squats. I usually do them every other quad day but that makes for a long workout since my back squats take up the majority of the workout.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:14 pm to
Sumo deadlifts are the true test.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:31 pm to
Arms cross or a clean rack it doesn't matter! Do them but don't live by them. No one should.
Posted by horndog
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:36 pm to
Easier on the back, harder on the knees.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:53 pm to
If you were front squatting your back squat max...maybe the knee thing can be said. But since front squats usually have a lower load than your back squats it's hard to make that claim.

Here's a good one: leg extensions stress the pcland acl greater than squats.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19590 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:54 pm to
frick all you bastards with non fricked up backs who can properly train legs and do dead lifts.

And if you have good calf genetics doubly frick ya.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:55 pm to
What's wrong with ur back?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:57 pm to
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What's wrong with ur back?


I had back problems until I stretched and did deadlifts. I feel much better nowadays. I could hardly bend over without severe pain. I also had pseudo sciatica. My issue was poor hip mobility and tightness.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278324 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:58 pm to
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It's a greater test of wrist and elbow flexibility


I know the post said "front rack position" but you should be able to lift the bar without even using your arms. most people do not even know how to rack the bar properly, much less the squatting motion
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:01 pm to
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I know the post said "front rack position" but you should be able to lift the bar without even using your arms. most people do not even know how to rack the bar properly, much less the squatting motion



Right!

Should be able to release ur hands from the bar, extend your arms in front and the bar not move.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:03 pm to
I think you lose lat engagement then
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