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OT runners, ever try Hokas?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:07 am
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:07 am
I screwed my knees up pretty bad in college. I did too much way too fast and it gave me a muscular imbalance in my hamstrings and quads, leading to some nasty IT band syndrome. Now I have a sort of dull pain in my knee for the first half mile or so of my run.
I usually run in Brooks but I was thinking about trying some Hokas if I got good reviews on them. I already run with a midfoot strike and stretch+roll since my injury. Just wondering if anyone's tried Hoka and would recommend them.
I usually run in Brooks but I was thinking about trying some Hokas if I got good reviews on them. I already run with a midfoot strike and stretch+roll since my injury. Just wondering if anyone's tried Hoka and would recommend them.
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:09 am to Ingeniero
I have arthritis in my big toe. Went to Hokas because the shape of the sole reduces the movement of that joint (and thus the pain). It works. I don't run as much now but they are comfortable for running and every day wear. The different sole does take some getting used to so they may not feel good right away.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:10 am to Ingeniero
I run in them now. Took a little while to get used to them but I can't run without em now. They'll help you. Try that band just below your knee cap as well.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:10 am to Ingeniero
Running is hard on your body. Swim or bike instead
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:19 am to jwill37
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Try that band just below your knee cap as well.
more details please. My knee is starting to hurt when I run (i'm 37).
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:20 am to Cosmo
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Running is hard on your body. Swim or bike instead
I've never owned Hokas, but I've tried them on in running shops and tested them out for a few minutes. They are definitely different. I don't think people realize that they are typically a lower drop shoe, so they do promote a mid foot strike even though they don't look like it. It's just different in that there is so much "cushion". It's like you are on platform shoes. You kind of "fall of a cliff" in the front of your foot, which I found strange feeling. But again, that was in my 5 minutes of testing them out. I personally prefer more "ground feel", but I can see how someone with a legit injuries may like the cushion.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:20 am to Ingeniero
Some people swear by them.
I, personally, hate them. But I've always ran in minimalist shoes.
I, personally, hate them. But I've always ran in minimalist shoes.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:23 am to Ingeniero
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I screwed my knees up pretty bad in college. I did too much way too fast and it gave me a muscular imbalance in my hamstrings and quads, leading to some nasty IT band syndrome. Now I have a sort of dull pain in my knee for the first half mile or so of my run.
also...how long ago was this?
switching shoes will not help IT band...you need to strengthen your butt/core
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:26 am to Salmon
The injury was about 4 years ago, effects have lessened a lot since I treated it but they still flare up. I've been doing strengthening and flexibility work ever since.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:29 am to Salmon
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switching shoes will not help IT band
It definitely helped me with the issue. A few years ago when I started running again, I was running in whatever shoes I had laying around. Some random Nike shoes I had for casual wear. I had outer knee tightness after almost every run over 3 miles. Switched to Brooks Ghost's and literally never even felt a hint of that IT tightness again. I'm now in Newtons and still no issues. Now I'll admit, these shoes were probably in terrible shape, but it did lead to the IT band issue.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:37 am to KG6
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Switched to Brooks Ghost's and literally never even felt a hint of that IT tightness again.
This is what I run in now. I'll go to the store and try some Hokas. If I don't like the feel I'll just get the new Ghosts since they've been good to me.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:42 am to Ingeniero
You'll be hard pressed to find reliable sources who will attribute ITB problems to your shoes.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:02 am to Ingeniero
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OT runners, ever try Hokas?
Smoking will not help your running, although the right substance MIGHT ease the pain in your knees temporarily.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:04 am to KG6
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It definitely helped me with the issue. A few years ago when I started running again, I was running in whatever shoes I had laying around. Some random Nike shoes I had for casual wear. I had outer knee tightness after almost every run over 3 miles. Switched to Brooks Ghost's and literally never even felt a hint of that IT tightness again. I'm now in Newtons and still no issues. Now I'll admit, these shoes were probably in terrible shape, but it did lead to the IT band issue.
I don't think it was the shoes
did you take time off in between this? did you get more serious with your fitness? so many variables
I don't know how changing your shoes could help with IT issues
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:06 am to Ingeniero
And hear me out about the barefoot stuff. I'm not talking about the vibrams toe shoes or any knock off. And actual barefoot can be harmful due to cuts and scrapes. But try a very thin sole, light weight shoe. Don't worry about a striking pattern. Start off slow, work your mileage up.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:06 am to Salmon
How many miles per week do you average and what shoes do you run in?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:09 am to Ingeniero
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How many miles per week do you average
now? maybe 15-20 miles
pre kid? 50-70 miles easy
My rotation is NB Minimus (speed work) and Newton Distance S (long runs)
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:10 am to Ingeniero
Ran for years in New Balance. Got a pair of Hokas about two months ago. They are great.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:10 am to Salmon
I do not pretend at all to be an expert on the issue. I just know that I was foam rolling, icing, taking aleve, etc. after every run. Nothing would stop it. The last run I did in those shoes (13.1 mile training run) was the last straw. I was still tender the next day. Went get better shoes that day since I was finally getting serious and hadn't had a single run with IT band tightness since.
Like I said, I don't think that I'd have had the issue running in any "good" pair of shoes. I just think a really bad pair (these were probably 4 years old, although never really run in) can possibly cause the issue. It's hard for me to look other places when it stopped liked someone flipped a switch. It could have totally been that I changed my gait at the same time. But I think the shoes helped facilitate that.
In the same manner, I could not figure out a comfortable way to run with a midfoot strike until I switched from the Ghost (12mm drop) to my Newtons. Within a few months, my running looks totally different. Now I just need to find a shoe that I like, but isn't as expensive as Newtons.
Like I said, I don't think that I'd have had the issue running in any "good" pair of shoes. I just think a really bad pair (these were probably 4 years old, although never really run in) can possibly cause the issue. It's hard for me to look other places when it stopped liked someone flipped a switch. It could have totally been that I changed my gait at the same time. But I think the shoes helped facilitate that.
In the same manner, I could not figure out a comfortable way to run with a midfoot strike until I switched from the Ghost (12mm drop) to my Newtons. Within a few months, my running looks totally different. Now I just need to find a shoe that I like, but isn't as expensive as Newtons.
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