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re: OT Parents: Best Advice/Things You Wish You Had Known

Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:41 am to
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Rice in





Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:42 am to
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:43 am to
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Reading at 250 wpm in second grade thanks for asking

yeah, ok champ
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Now did you read your own quote? They take arsonic present in Bangladesh drinking water hurting their kids and compare it to rice. Talk about a stretch.

Did you read it? Just a 50% increase in arsenic has been shown to decrease IQ. Kids eating rice cereal had double the arsenic in their urine (that's a 100% increase).

While I seriously doubt your claims about your kid's reading abilities, what is more disturbing is your ignoring scientific evidence showing what you are doing may be harming your child. If I saw that I would change my ways in a heartbeat. I wouldn't take those kinds of risks with my kids just because you think everything is a conspiracy to make money and doctors don't actually know what they are doing.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 11:44 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:45 am to
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sounds like the true problem in theory would be rice grown in arsenic contaminated water


So what if I told you that arsenic was naturally occurring in most soil? That as rice sucked up the water around it, it accumulated higher concentrations of arsenic?

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Since arsenic is found naturally in the environment, you will be exposed to some arsenic by eating food, drinking water, or breathing air. Children may also be exposed to arsenic by eating soil. Analytical methods used by scientists to determine the levels of arsenic in the environment generally do not determine the specific form of arsenic present. Therefore, we do not always know the form of arsenic a person may be exposed to. Similarly, we often do not know what forms of arsenic are present at hazardous waste sites. Some forms of arsenic may be so tightly attached to particles or embedded in minerals that they are not taken up by plants and animals.


CDC
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:47 am to
It doesn't really matter to me whether you believe it or not. It's still truth.

Again, my entire problem with this argument is that is goes against common sense. Common sense tells me that if the large majority of the world is raised on rice, it ain't that bad for ya.

I'm not some doofus arguing that we should feed our kids cancer and cigarettes. I'm a natural skeptic. I don't trust things just because other people believe them. I give it my own thought. It's how I am, how I'm wired. My mind tells me this study is flawed because again if rice is so bad, why aren't kids sick globally from it?
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 11:49 am
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:48 am to
above all, enjoy it:




its hard to believe our 3 year old is already as big as he is

it moves quick
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:52 am to
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MrsWafer (no pics) will take care of our little mini Cheez-It at night during the week so my work schedule isn't messed up. I go to work earlier to get home earlier and take care of her in the afternoons. On the weekends she'll wake me up as needed, 1,3,5 am, whatever, and I'll take care of the baby and allow MrsWafer to sleep as much as she can handle.

Works well for us, just find what works well for you.


We actually discussed a similar schedule, so that's nice to hear it works for yall. Knowing my husband has to be a new parent and juggle working 50+ hours a week makes it no question that I will try and cover the majority of those middle of the night feedings while I'm on maternity leave. Luckily his boss has 2 daughters and is fully aware of what we're about to go through.
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:54 am to
Save every dime you can. You are going to need it. Also, limit electronics.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:58 am to
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It doesn't really matter to me whether you believe it or not. It's still truth.


What truth are you referring to? The fact that arsenic affects neuro development and is found in greater levels in kids who eat rice cereal?

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Again, my entire problem with this argument is that is goes against common sense. Common sense tells me that if the large majority of the world is raised on rice, it ain't that bad for ya.

I don't think you understand how common sense works. Seventy years ago common sense was that smoking was good for you.
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I don't trust things just because other people believe them.

I don't either, but do you know what I do trust? Science. You should try it some time.
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My mind tells me this study is flawed because again if rice is so bad, why aren't kids sick globally from it?

Did you read the article? There is nothing in there saying it makes kids physically ill, but it can affect neuro development. That's a bit more subtle and not something that would always be outwardly obvious.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:03 pm to
The things I said about my kid are truth. Would pride be my master if I posted his papers from school and a recent photo of him to support my claims? Probably so.

As for the article, again, and hopefully it sinks in this time.... I don't believe the study to be accurate. I think it was biased. For all I know they only tested kids in high risk regions. Maybe they had a sample that didn't reflect real life. I doubt the study done.

I know my kid ate a ton of it, among many other things, and from my personal experience there are no negative side effects. None. Zero.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:04 pm to
The key to being a good father is not "quality time". It is "quantity time". Be the constant daily rock in their lives and your children will bloom. This includes being a really good husband.

Also, do not impose arbitrary rules. Explain your logical and thoughtful rules . Involve them in this. Let them know why. Ask them if it makes sense to them. Walk them through it patiently. This puts you on the same side for life.

Make sure your home is nurturing and peaceful. Let it be a respite from school. Sure let them do chores and whatever, but it should not be a judgemental work camp where they feel shame and self-loathing. I know so many people who hated their home as kids. That's profoundly sad to me.

If possible, isolate each child and spend time just with him or her. Make that routine and throughout their childhood. I "steal" each of my kids periodically. That stuff lasts a lifetime.

Also, consider the word "control". Most bad parenting comes from lack of control or the desire to control too much. Allow them their independence, don't hover,allow them the freedom to make and recover from mistakes, cut them some slack, give up the fantasy that you can "create" a child to some image in your head. Let them make decisions (that includes mistakes), be there with them, let them know the bond is unbreakable, and watch them make you proud.

Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:08 pm to
Unexplainable relationship between mother and baby. As the father support that relationship. Momma has got this, it's nature. Also, tell all your extended family to bring you tons of food. You will be busy and not much time for cooking. Congrats. Best moment of your life.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20871 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:17 pm to
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know my kid ate a ton of it, among many other things, and from my personal experience there are no negative side effects.


I smoked for 10 years and also worked in asbestos abatement and demolition in the same timeframe.

If I told you that there's been no ill effects would you believe me? Maybe. What if I told you that I will never have any ill effects- would you believe me? Anecdotal evidence in a very small sample with a short amount of time is not a good indicator of future events.

To be clear I hope nothing happens to your child- I am just saying that eventually science catches up to everyone in one way or another.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:22 pm to
Why are you so dismissive of my main point? Why do you trust the research so much? It's one study. One dude that could have been paid 75k to publish anything.

If you're creative enough, you can manipulate studies and outcomes.

And how do you consider the consumption of rice to be something shortsighted? People have eaten rice for millennia.

ETA: where is the rice industry's response to this?
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29479 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:23 pm to
Get the baby exposed to life outside the house. Go to noisy places as usual so he/she learns to sleep anywhere, anytime. We followed this advice with both kids and it was solid.

Conversely, we have friends with infants that they never take anywhere, and now the baby won't sleep unless it is completely quiet....and wakes up at the slightest noise.




This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:29 pm to
One thing that helps kids learn to sleep in their bed is out them down to sleep as they are starting to fall asleep in your arms not AFTER they fall asleep.

If they learn to fall asleep on their own in their bed that carries over really well

We did this with both our 3 year old and our 22 month old and they both sleep well in their own beds.

Every now and then one will wake up crying because on they're too hot or something but they go back to sleep pretty easily

It's about making them comfortable to sleep in their own bed and room
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20871 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:37 pm to
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Why do you trust the research so much? It's one study. One dude that could have been paid 75k to publish anything.


This isn't the first time it's been postulated that arsenic is in rice. The only reason adults can eat it is because of body size. Scale it down to a baby's size and you run into problems.

It's obvious you don't agree with the science published so far- and that is certainly your prerogative.

Eta- Rice industry news

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Published studies have shown that cooking rice in 6 to 10 parts of water to 1 part rice, then draining the excess water, can reduce the inorganic arsenic content by 40 to 60 percent, depending on the type of rice, according to the FDA. At the same time, this cooking method removes some key nutrients.

Exposing infants and pregnant women to inorganic arsenic can decrease a child’s performance in certain developmental tests, according to the FDA

Arsenic is a naturally occurring element in the Earth’s crust and is present in water, air and soil. It occurs in two forms: organic and inorganic. Of the two, inorganic is considered more toxic when eaten.


This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:50 pm to
Can cause asthma and other respiratory problems later. But, some parents do it in hopes their little one will sleep better/longer.

To the OP: enjoy every second! They grow up way too fast. If your child has acid reflux or colic put them to sleep in something that has them at an incline. There are several options today that provide this in a safe way.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21831 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:53 pm to
Drop them off on a neighboring state; if they find their way back to you, you know that baby's a keeper
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21831 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:53 pm to
Drop them off in a neighboring state; if they find their way back to you, you know that baby's a keeper
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:55 pm
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