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re: OT moms, why the reduction in titty feeding?

Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:35 pm to
I barely made 3 months. That was plenty long for me.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:35 pm to
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He cluster fed for weeks straight. He would feed every 45 minutes for short periods. It was awful for the wife and I. He never had a good 3 hours of sleep


right now im sitting with my girl and the wife is sleeping. she will probably be up another 20 minutes then wake up around 12 to feed back asleep by 1 and up again at 4. its become such a repetitive cycle but keeps her happy and i feel like im getting enough sleep.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:36 pm to
My son was formula fed from the very beginning and he has grown at an incredible rate and developed physically at a much faster rate than his peers. It helps that I am 6'6" but still he towers over the children in his Pre-K class. Also very good intellectual development as well.

My son is from a previous relationship and now my wife and I had our first daughter. She is breasted from the very beginning and is right around 7/8 weeks old. My wife is a teacher so she has the time to breast feed especially with summer now here. I tell you it's very time consuming and strenuous especially when you are the father and can't feed the baby. She went back to school for the last 4 days and could really pump so that I could feed. Now that's she's home for the summer all times she would pump she feeds the baby. I'm the diaper king. Not a lot of sleep to be had although she appears to be settling in.

I will say breast feeding takes time and dedication and has a ton of additional benefits when compared to formula. However with the traits in people in society today I see why not many devote the time. But also formula works just fine too.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146997 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:40 pm to
So weird you said that. My kids that were breast fed are literally off the charts smart. The one that wasn't is smart but not a brain. I feel guilty because he also was projectile vomiting the formula from birth and no one told me he was allergic.
Posted by ImReallyAMermaid
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:49 pm to
Once you get into a cycle, it becomes much more manageable. My only issue is finding the time to pump, which is so time consuming.

I go back to work in a few weeks so I'm interested to see how my opinion on all of this will change. That's when the real dedication comes into check
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:50 pm to
I will say that my daughter is developing quickly in a lot of areas my son didn't. She already attempts to mimic sounds like hi and hey and ooh. She returns smiles and can follow some repetitious behavior like my wife kisses her on the nose and and goes oooohhh and our daughter responds by throwing her head back and doing ooh. Once my wife went in to do it and stopped and my daughter started to go back and made the noise but caught herself cause she wasn't kissed. Amazing stuff really...
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:52 pm to
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I go back to work in a few weeks so I'm interested to see how my opinion on all of this will change. That's when the real dedication comes into check


shite i envy my friend at work who was breastfeeding. she got like 4, 45 minute breaks each day and there wasn't a damn thing anyone could say about it

my biggest worry right now is trying not to use a pacifier even though its like a instant fix for her fussiness because im scared its gonna mess up her latching (as i say this shes sucking on a soothie in the rock n play....)
This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 9:55 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:57 pm to
That's a good schedule. My son started sleeping through the night at around 4 months. He has his nights, but sleeps most nights. Those first three to four months were a nightmare. Before formula, it was literally any time he felt like being up. Could have fed him 20 minutes ago and he was whining. I thjnk feeding soothed his upset stomach. After formula, he'd sleep for his 3 hours a lot more. But he still had his difficulties.

I think it depends on the kid. There are moms who look down on formula moms, because they did the breast thing and feel like everyone should be able to do it. We would have done it if absolutely needed, but it was really getting hard for me to be able to go to work. I'd have to go in late some days. Wife was home with him all day, so I had to take night shift for her to get any rest (still got up to pump). I wasn't sleeping at all. It just reached a point that we turned to formula one night. It was a sample from the hospital. We had success and it helped us a lot. I think my son has had a much more pleasant childhood so far because of it.
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Huey-can you offer any reliable sources for that information. It seems rather antiquated and certainly doesn't mesh with the CDC, WHO, or AMA stance.


For the lack of long-term benefits? That comes from this study discussed in the wbur.org article and is among the more recent studies conducted on breastfeeding.

Here's more on the lack of long-term benefits:
Word Health Organization: No Long Term Benefits to Breastfeeding

(referencing this WHO study from 2013 which is a meta analysis of virtually all studies on the long-term effects of breastfeeding: https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/79198/1/9789241505307_eng.pdf)

quote:

One study vs thousands that say otherwise...


You seem well-versed on the subject..Show me the thousands of studies as recent as 2013/2014 that contradict the findings of the World Health Organization report or the Colen study.

I used to be a rabid breastfeeding Nazi until the new research started coming in. Lactivists have grossly skewed peoples' perspectives on the matter over the last decade or so. I know women that pour breastmilk that was kept in the freezer for years into their childrens' pinkeye instead of bringing them to the doctor, feed them breastmilk for a flu, dump it on a baby's yeast rash instead of using Clotrimazole, and other really bonkers things. It's just milk, but some people have made it into such a sacred cow that God forbid anyone question whether their magic milk is really a total cure for all childhood ailments.



Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:00 pm to
I only made three months with my first. Mostly because I didn't know enough about breastfeeding and didn't get in a good feed/pump rhythm.
I made a whole year with my son, and that was with pumping at work, which is a HUGE (I do mean HUGE!!!), pain in the arse. If I would have been able to stay home, I probably would have let him breastfeed longer.
Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:03 pm to
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my biggest worry right now is trying not to use a pacifier even though its like a instant fix for her fussiness because im scared its gonna mess up her latching (as i say this shes sucking on a soothie in the rock n play....)


Get her a rounded nipple pacifier if you are worried about that. It's shaped more like a woman's nipple. I used these with both kids and never had an issue, though everyone is different.
Posted by ImReallyAMermaid
Member since Jun 2013
3233 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:04 pm to
I was trying to hold off on the pacifier as well but gave in when she was about 5 days old. She started sucking on her hands and it seemed to soothe her so we just gave her one. Hasn't caused any confusion.

We also just started her on a bottle and it hasn't caused any problems yet except she gulps in down in a fourth of the time it takes her to breastfeed lol.
Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:06 pm to
Even using the slow nipples?
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:26 pm to
Breastfeeding SUCKS. Literally.

I did it until I went back to work, even having tons of issues with supply and baby having colic, but I became a much happier & better mother once we switched to formula. That magical moment everyone talks about? Yeah, never ever had one of those as I gazed down at the leach who took an hour + to feed every 2-3 hours around the clock. I'm not hater to those who love it, but everyone is different. No two experiences are alike. You do your absolute best and carry on.

3 months of boob milk definitely didn't protect my son from swine flu at 7 months, then type B flu at 8 months. However, he's never ever ever sick anymore. Knock on wood. Maybe it's all the green vegetable juice we give him.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:28 pm to
Let her have a passifier if it helps! Mine is turning 2 this week and we had to go cold turkey on his "Deee deeeeee" (binky) a month ago. If it weren't an issue I would've let him keep it forever. Loved that little muzzle in churches and the grocery store. Anywho, point is: give it to her--breaking her wont be that bad.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:33 pm to
every time i try to pull the passifier out when i think shes sleeping she sucks harder on it. oh well how can i mess with this:

Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:36 pm to
Aweeee!!! So sweet! She's beautiful :)

You'll be shocked in 6 months when she's using the same passifier and yet it looks tiny on her face. I remember how that one encompassed my baby's face as a newborn. Then a year later it looked like a toy passifier.

They grow so fast. It's devastating! :(
This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 10:37 pm
Posted by ImReallyAMermaid
Member since Jun 2013
3233 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:38 pm to
Rock n play? My little girl will ONLY sleep in that.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:45 pm to
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Rock n play?


yea. she'll fall asleep in it and then we move her into the halo bassinett. was a big fight early on with the wife when we were registering because she wanted to just use the rock n play but i didnt want her getting used to sleeping on an incline and was worried it was too low to the ground to pick her up at night

the halo sleeper has been awesome

Posted by ImReallyAMermaid
Member since Jun 2013
3233 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:51 pm to
I'm worried about the same thing. Mine won't sleep in the playpen but will sleep during the day in my bed. It's weird.
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