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OT lawyer question about felony theft
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:13 pm
There is(was) a lady in the companies book keeping department that embezzled 150k over 8 years. Her first offense we believe. Will she get time, probation restitution or some combination. I don't think she can pay much restitution if any. I know sentencing guidelines are 5 to 20 years but doubt she'll get that. This is in the 19th jdc in BR
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:14 pm to foj1981
Probation with restitution payable over time.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:17 pm to foj1981
My old man's former bookkeeper did this exact same thing only it was $220,000 over 5 years. She had never been in trouble before and was sentenced to 2.5 years prison plus restitution over time.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:18 pm to foj1981
+/- 5 yrs plus probation and restitution. It will come out her paycheck.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:18 pm to foj1981
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Will she get time, probation restitution or some combination.
Totally depends on how the case works out. Nobody knows until then.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:20 pm to foj1981
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:21 pm to foj1981
F your company for paying slave wages and forcing her hand.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:31 pm to upgrayedd
She a good person never hurt nobody
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:32 pm to foj1981
This happened at my mom's place of employment, too. They ended up not pressing charges so as to not alert some high profile clients or something. Chick walked away with hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's astounding how commonplace this is.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:38 pm to drunkenpunkin
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This happened at my mom's place of employment, too. They ended up not pressing charges so as to not alert some high profile clients or something. Chick walked away with hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's astounding how commonplace this is.
I've heard this is super common in the banking business
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:41 pm to foj1981
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OT lawyer question about felony theft
Not a lawyer but ive watched a ton of Judge Judy and Peoples Court all the way back to Judge Wapner
Id guess 5-10 years suspended sentence, active supervised probation and forced to pay restitution.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:42 pm to upgrayedd
Admittedly, I've never found myself in a position to decide whether or not to press charges on a person who does this, but I feel like it'd be worth a few pissed off clients to stick someone like that in jail.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:45 pm to drunkenpunkin
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It's astounding how commonplace this is
Yep. And even by family members of family run businesses.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:01 pm to drunkenpunkin
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I feel like it'd be worth a few pissed off clients to stick someone like that in jail.
There are some industries where admitting you were embezzled from would be a death sentence.
Would you hire an accounting firm as your corporate accountants if you knew that it took them five years to realize one of their own employees was embezzling from them? In this example, admitting the crime happened would be slitting their own throats. Instead they're likely to tell the employee that their choices are to resign and keep the money with an ironclad NDA in place or refuse to resign and go to jail and have to pay back the money. Both sides would almost always choose the former.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Friend is in the investment business. Hired a kid straight out of college into his firm and kid starts stealing almost immediately. It took a few years to catch him based on the way he was shaving commissions off of trades.
When my buddy caught the guy, he called him in and gave him an option. Call police right then and kid would be arrested or sign a five year employment agreement with a 40% pay reduction and some other harsh conditions.
I laughed because I think the kid should have taken jail over the fricking he got for those five years.
When my buddy caught the guy, he called him in and gave him an option. Call police right then and kid would be arrested or sign a five year employment agreement with a 40% pay reduction and some other harsh conditions.
I laughed because I think the kid should have taken jail over the fricking he got for those five years.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:27 pm to Sampson
Where was this?
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:51 pm to foj1981
Oh one other detail. Her son worked for the company and she was illegally funneling money to him as well
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:56 pm to foj1981
She's about to break bread with Trudy white and get off with 30 hours of trash pickup.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:25 pm to drunkenpunkin
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It's astounding how commonplace this is.
I recently dealt with an owner of a big construction company who had this happen - about $250k from a lady who had been there 15 years. She was paying her Amex with company money. Easy scam, until you get caught. Meanwhile my bookkeeper is in Hawaii right now...
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