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OT electricians - simple light switch question

Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:37 pm
i had a light switch (on/off) that worked before.

replacing it with a simple motion sensor switch.

2 insulated wires in outlet; each has
- 1 ground
- 1 white
- 1 black

before the 2 black wires were plugged into light witch and 2 whites are wired together with a cap.

when i wired the new switch, it works..but instead of turning off, it rapidly blinks on/off. doesnt turn off.

what am i missing? do i need to use one black & one white wire? what would cause this?

eta swapping the black wire connections to the switch didn't change the behavior.

tia
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20884 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:49 pm to
It sounds like you have a simple hot and a switch leg. Sounds like it's done right. You may have a bad sensor.
Posted by rustyjohnson
LP
Member since Oct 2009
429 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:50 pm to
Sounds like bulb is not compatible with the switch.
Posted by section414
Saints fan
Member since Oct 2014
288 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:51 pm to
did u turn the power off before hooking it up ..... very easy to burn up an electronic motion sensor ...
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:52 pm to
Don't be surprised if you have a bad sensor. Any electrical outlet/switch bought at Lowes or Depot has a 10% chance (at least) of being defective.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69050 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

before the 2 black wires were plugged into light witch and 2 whites are wired together with a cap.



This is the way it's done the neutral, (which flows to ground) is always continuous. The hot leg (black) is turned on and off by the switch. The ground is just a direct to ground. (meaning it's use either way won't affect anything unless it's a ground-fault interrupter switch)

Now with a sensor light IT DOES MATTER where the always hot leg of the wire is attached and there the switched output goes (in a normal switch it doesn't matter)

So simply put you have two possible outcomes. Either the switch sensor is bad OR the black wires are backwards going into the switch.

Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30890 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

It sounds like you have a simple hot and a switch leg. Sounds like it's done right. You may have a bad sensor.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2067 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:07 pm to
What kind of fixture is it? The motion sensor may be incandescent-only. If you have a CFL or fluorescent strip light, it may be blinking because the sensor doesn't completely break the power
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:08 pm to
You should have bought your light switch from Amazon
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:40 pm to
Thank you!! Ill try another switch.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:40 pm to
Thank you!! Ill try another switch.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5173 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

replacing it with a simple motion sensor switch.

2 insulated wires in outlet; each has
- 1 ground
- 1 white
- 1 black


Sounds like your motion sensor switch requires a neutral wire that your outlet does not have. Read the specs on your switch. The most important thing when replacing light switches is matching switch neutral requirements to the outlet. A lot of the newer technology and smart switches require neutral and only newer houses are wired for it.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7541 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:24 pm to
Follow the instructions on the new switch.

Before, all the switch did was break contact on the hot lead (switch leg).

I suspect the new switch needs a neutral to power the sensor circuitry.

You can get the neutral by adding a small white wire to the neutrals all wire nutted together.

Posted by Sl4m
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
3717 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 4:04 pm to
The fixture doesn't pull enough amps to keep up with the OT.

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