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OT Docs: Wife's (No pics) PT is discussing dry needling..
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:57 am
How legitimate is this practice? The online information likens it to acupuncture. She has sciatic nerve pain caused by tension in her back muscles and her pelvis being misaligned. The PT is wanting to use this procedure to help ease the tension in the muscles. Does this actually work? Or is it just more voodoo medicine?
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:58 am to BayouBrawl
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and her pelvis being misaligned
Yea sorry about that
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:00 am to BayouBrawl
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:05 am to BayouBrawl
I did it once to treat severe spasm. It worked...spasms ended two times quicker than normal. It was not painless...it was not pleasant...but it did produce positive results.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:06 am to WPBTiger
Yeah, the PT gave her all the stretches and stuff to do. She also goes to the PT twice a week.
And they did assure her it would not be painless. But the Therapist thinks it will be the best thing for her.
And they did assure her it would not be painless. But the Therapist thinks it will be the best thing for her.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 8:08 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:08 am to BayouBrawl
Dry needling can help some people with muscular pain in the neck or lower back.
quote:This statement is mostly bullshite.
She has sciatic nerve pain caused by tension in her back muscles and her pelvis being misaligned
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:13 am to saderade
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This statement is mostly bullshite.
Only going by what the PT told her. She said the sciatic nerve runs in one of two places. In her case, it is running between the muscle fibers. And the muscles being so tense is putting pressure on the nerve. This is also the reason for the pelvis being misaligned. Too much tension on one side.
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Piriformis syndrome The sciatic nerve can get irritated as it runs under the piriformis muscle in the buttock. If the piriformis muscle irritates or pinches a nerve root that comprises the sciatic nerve, it can cause sciatica-type pain. This is not a true radiculopathy (the clinical definition of sciatica), but the leg pain can feel the same as sciatica caused by a nerve irritation.
Dosen't seem like BS to me?
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 8:16 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:14 am to BayouBrawl
PT were just recently allowed to start performing dry needling. I think about 2-3 months ago.
I was the first patient my PT performed dry needling on after he went for his 3-4 days of training. I had been in PT for 8-10 weeks due to shoulder surgery at that point.
It doesn't hurt at all. Does feel funny when the needle hits bone. Was a bit concerning when he said, "I need to use a shorter needle here so I don't puncture your lung." I knew he had just returned from only 4 days training and that I was his first patient.
Eventually, I had to have an additional surgery to unfreeze my shoulder. I can't say that I noticed any benefit from the needling process.
I was intereting to see that once he had the training, every single patient was getting dry needling. I was there 8-10 weeks before he was trained and 5-6 weeks after. Maybe that's the intended norm, but it seems whatever the injury was; dry needling was suggested.
Insurance does cover the process so I guess they've seen studies that show it is beneficial and therapeutic.
I was the first patient my PT performed dry needling on after he went for his 3-4 days of training. I had been in PT for 8-10 weeks due to shoulder surgery at that point.
It doesn't hurt at all. Does feel funny when the needle hits bone. Was a bit concerning when he said, "I need to use a shorter needle here so I don't puncture your lung." I knew he had just returned from only 4 days training and that I was his first patient.
Eventually, I had to have an additional surgery to unfreeze my shoulder. I can't say that I noticed any benefit from the needling process.
I was intereting to see that once he had the training, every single patient was getting dry needling. I was there 8-10 weeks before he was trained and 5-6 weeks after. Maybe that's the intended norm, but it seems whatever the injury was; dry needling was suggested.
Insurance does cover the process so I guess they've seen studies that show it is beneficial and therapeutic.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:14 am to BayouBrawl
Did she have any type of accident?
Might want to look into getting her in to see a physiatrist.
They are very good at making this shite go away.
I worked with one for a long time... trigger point is basically what it is. Makes it go away, but it may come back. Hurts like a sum bitch. I was the only guy in the office, many times I had to help him hold grown men down
Might want to look into getting her in to see a physiatrist.
They are very good at making this shite go away.
I worked with one for a long time... trigger point is basically what it is. Makes it go away, but it may come back. Hurts like a sum bitch. I was the only guy in the office, many times I had to help him hold grown men down
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:15 am to BayouBrawl
Consult a nerve specislist
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:17 am to HebertFest08
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Did she have any type of accident?
She was doing some pretty rigorous routines with one of the trainers at the gym.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:28 am to BayouBrawl
Most literature states that about 15% of people have the anatomical variation that can cause piriformis syndrome, but it can undoubtedly be the cause. A few tests and signs can usually give you a strong indication if it is the cause. I've never practiced needling, but I've heard some people say it has helped and others not so much. Definitely worth a shot before surgery as long as your practitioner is competent.
Your wife should see a chiropractor.
Your wife should see a chiropractor.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 8:35 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:31 am to BayouBrawl
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pelvis misaligned
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She was doing some pretty rigorous routines with one of the trainers at the gym.
I bet she was
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:34 am to tigers win2
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PT were just recently allowed to start performing dry needling. I think about 2-3 months ago.
My PT was doing DN on me over a year and a half ago.
That being said, to the OP, while I am not a doctor, I have had DN done for various muscular issues, including radiating issues into the legs related to back condition, and I have had positive results.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:34 am to Upperaltiger06
She has been seeing a chiropractor. He can align everything and it gets better for a couple of days. Then it goes right back to hurting. She's trying to do anything she can to keep from having to take pain pills. Basically, she's going through the progressions suggested by her doc at the moment. PT was his first choice to keep from suggesting surgery. I'm mainly just asking if the dry needling is worth giving a shot, or is it completely un-needed pain. My insurance will cover it completely, so I'm not worried about that. The PT is also doing lots of other things, just thinks this will be an added benefit.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:35 am to BayouBrawl
I dry needled your wife last night IYKWIMAITYD
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:35 am to BayouBrawl
If she starts pain pills you can kiss you life goodbye.
Get her some weed or something
Get her some weed or something
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:37 am to Cosmo
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I dry needled your wife last night IYKWIMAITYD
And your payment was greatly appreciated. I'm planning to use that to buy a new rod/reel setup.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:37 am to I Love Bama
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If she starts pain pills you can kiss you life goodbye.
I completely agree. And she is also dead set against it, thankfully.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:39 am to Rouge
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Consult a nerve specislist
Neurologist?
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