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re: Osteochondral Allograft Transplantation

Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:34 pm to
Yeah, kinda funny I need human body parts yet I have a business selling parts(construction equip stuff, not human parts)....kinda funny weird...
Posted by Buck Strickland
Arlen, Texas
Member since Sep 2017
155 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:47 pm to
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Sounds like a serious pain in the arse for a year at least.


Thats the conclusion I reached. My doctor said it would not delay the need for a complete replacement. I'm in the same boat and going to wait the 10 years. I am going to try PRP in the meantime.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7879 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:34 pm to
I had OATS done in January of 2019. The worst part was being in a straight leg brace with no weight bearing or driving for 8 weeks. Rehab was a breeze and I was back to 80% within 6 months and 100% (running) in ~12. I hiked about 30 miles in Wyoming and Montana during the summer if 2020 with no issues.
Posted by gsadle5
Member since Sep 2007
261 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:34 pm to
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60% cartliage loss, bone on bone when walking to mailbox. shite hurts.


If it’s truly bone on bone is this an option?

A knee replacement seems inevitable and there no guarantee this will make you better in the interim. I’d either deal with it as long as you can then opt for knee replacement which has much better likelihood to improve your symptoms.

The other thing to think about is with 2 surgeries you have twice the possibility of complications of surgery.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17270 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:23 pm to
Don’t do it
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3742 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:24 pm to
This is similar to the technique used for penis enlargement.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:29 pm to
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This is similar to the technique used for penis enlargement.

Maybe I need a two-for-one surgery.
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
823 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:31 pm to
Really don’t feel like emailing back and forth about it but my advice is that if you are likely heading for a replacement maybe hit the PT for a few wks, take what you learn there to a gym, and just get it strong and stable. You’ll feel better and if you have the total knee you’ll be prepared to fly through the surgery and recovery. Avoid the cartilage graft surgery, they don’t go well.

Hope this helps.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 10:54 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65777 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:34 pm to
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I’m a pretty smart guy, but if you gave me a piece of paper with this on it and a gun, and I couldn’t leave the room until I came up with an acceptable definition, I’d last 5 minutes
I was thinking something ear related.

So I guess I’d have lasted about 2 minutes like I would with Halle Berry or Elizabeth Hurley-

Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:34 pm to
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The other thing to think about is with 2 surgeries you have twice the possibility of complications of surgery.



Yeah, that is weighing on me.....I think I'll just drain my knee every few months, then have knee replacement in my 60's, I guess. Sucks.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:36 pm to
I appreciate the advice....thanks
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
823 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 10:51 pm to
No prob. Replacement really isn’t that big a deal anymore and most recover quicker than the cartilage surgery IMO. Around 60 is the right age for it if it’s really bothering you.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8315 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:49 pm to
Are u way overweight?
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:40 am to
Nope...6' 185lbs....177-189lb range. Beer gut to 4-pack ranger.....
Posted by gsadle5
Member since Sep 2007
261 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:55 am to
It’s wise to put it off as long as you can but don’t let age be the sole reason to put it off. Quality of life should be the most important factor in your decision. What good is it waiting until your 60’s if you’re unable to do the things you like to do or need to do and not enjoy them because of pain. Ultimately, you’ll know when it’s time regardless of age.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13665 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:09 am to
Look up some of Matt Vincent’s old videos on YouTube (old LSU T+F thrower, Highland Games competitor). I think he tried the cartilage thing (unsure if allograft), but I think he ended up with a knee replacement
Posted by NJ El Tigre
New Jersey
Member since Oct 2010
1301 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 8:00 am to
Where in your knee is the OCA going? Patella or a condyle? Patella tends to be a little easier. How old are you I may have missed it earlier.

I worked for an orthopedic surgeon in nyc for 3 years who did this exact procedure multiple times a week. The success rate is more like 80% when looking at recent studies.

If the OCA is going in the condyle and you have more than just a central large lesion it may not work. Generally the OCA works best if it’s just filling in a pot hole. 60% loss sounds like a lot.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 8:25 am to
loss in femoral condyle....whatever that is.

I also have thickening medial collateral ligament and "intrasubstance" on medial collateral ligament.

Not sure really what that means. I'm getting a 2nd opinion regardless.

Knee is swollen again from recumbent bike. No squats or step ups at all, kinda pisses me off I'm going back for a knee drain. Probably every 2-3 months even though I ice 2-3x's per day.
Posted by BazookaJoe
Member since Apr 2010
38 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:00 am to
tissue processor

Lifenet health is one of the primary processors of these types of grafts. Some of the success of the graft is dependent of your surgeon matching the plug well. I don't work for Lifenet, but have experience on the donation side so I've sat through a few trainings on this graft.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17033 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:03 am to
I have wondered before if there was a way to take ligaments, bone, and cartilage from a recently passed away person and use them on someone that needs medical care for injuries
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