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re: Options for next duty station [Update pg 5]
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:24 pm to ArmydawgMD
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:24 pm to ArmydawgMD
You're going to end up banging nurses five+ years younger than you anyway.
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:39 pm to ArmydawgMD
All my friends that have been to Germany have absolutely loved it. Most of them came back married.
About half of my friends that were at JBLM enjoyed it.
Honestly, the extra year before residency gives you the opportunity to travel all over Europe.
About half of my friends that were at JBLM enjoyed it.
Honestly, the extra year before residency gives you the opportunity to travel all over Europe.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:41 pm to LemmyLives
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LemmyLive
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Get a local work permit for minimal amounts of part time work, while you're on duty, that should help with your options afterwards. Mine was issued after I'd worked there for almost six months, after I was on my way back to the US.
Are you a physician?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:52 pm to ArmydawgMD
No, but I was seconded to (Firm) Belenux for months for a particular project as a specialized professional (Information Security). My work permit approval was mailed to me after I arrived back in TX, so I don't get that it's super particular in the EU, if someone needs you. I just flew to the US or the UK every 29 days, and nobody gave me any crap.
There are so many classes of visas in the EU, depending on whether you're already there, not there but not working, etc., it's astounding. What I learned with (Firm) was that you maybe don't understand the answers on the electronic application, and maybe you should re-interpret them to determine what you should actually answer to be advantageous to you.
If that wasn't clear enough, there are dedicated firms in the EU that will do all of this for you, for under 200 Euro, at least in Belgium.
There are so many classes of visas in the EU, depending on whether you're already there, not there but not working, etc., it's astounding. What I learned with (Firm) was that you maybe don't understand the answers on the electronic application, and maybe you should re-interpret them to determine what you should actually answer to be advantageous to you.
If that wasn't clear enough, there are dedicated firms in the EU that will do all of this for you, for under 200 Euro, at least in Belgium.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:16 am to ArmydawgMD
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For record I’m single, early 30s, no kids
If you wanna "tour" the place go for Korea the girls there love white guys.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:56 am to ArmydawgMD
What specialty are you eventually trying to do?
What is your active duty time commitment?
I’m assuming you did HPSP to pay for medical school and have 4 years active duty commitment. In that case I would do my time as a GMO and then separate for residency so you can do a civilian residency.
I’m AF HPSP and will start my active duty commitment after fellowship next year. Was told Germany might be one of the options for me, would be nice for a few years.
What is your active duty time commitment?
I’m assuming you did HPSP to pay for medical school and have 4 years active duty commitment. In that case I would do my time as a GMO and then separate for residency so you can do a civilian residency.
I’m AF HPSP and will start my active duty commitment after fellowship next year. Was told Germany might be one of the options for me, would be nice for a few years.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:42 am to ArmydawgMD
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Obv the extra year before I could reapply to residency is keeping me from jumping at the opportunity to pick Germany
The extra year won’t mean diddly squat as you get older.
If you decide against Germany, you will regret it down the road.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:24 am to ArmydawgMD
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WA (12 month assignment):
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-: not a whole lot to do in the immediate area I'm in, dating scene not great
3 hours south of Canada, which is chock full of really pretty girls, with small boobs and REALLY fine skater asses.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:43 am to ArmydawgMD
Germany, and it’s not even close.
No one regrets not moving to the PNW.
(Caveat:unless they’re in Bogalusa)
No one regrets not moving to the PNW.
(Caveat:unless they’re in Bogalusa)
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:42 am to ArmydawgMD
I said it before and I’ll say it again, go to Germany. It’s been well over 30 years since I left there and still think about how great* of a duty station it was.
*Grafenwöhr in the winter excluded
*Grafenwöhr in the winter excluded
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:05 am to ArmydawgMD
They all suck.
Carson not an option?
Carson not an option?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:26 am to ArmydawgMD
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Honestly I'd rather be in WA than anywhere else in the US right now. There is something to say about the evergreen trees, the bays, waking up on Saturdays and watching CFB all day, the summer nights where there is light until 10PM that is very appealing already.
As I said, it is hard to give up the good thing I have here for an unknown
I have only read pages one and five and it’s like 20-1 Germany.
But go ahead and stay in Washington and stop asking.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:33 am to ArmydawgMD
Sounds like you’re headed to LRMC. So is my son. He’ll live in K-town. Like JBLM, you’ll have mountain trails, but you’ll have a wider variety of food, and you will learn about other cultures. And you’ll forget about Tacoma in 5 minutes.
Think of it this way, in the future, will you look back with more relish on Tacoma or Europe?
Think of it this way, in the future, will you look back with more relish on Tacoma or Europe?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:37 am to ArmydawgMD
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I am early 30s, I took several years in between undergrad and med school. Which means I could end up being 7 years or even older than some people in my future residency class if I take the Germany spot.
So if you are a Doggy Primary Care Doc what residency are you talking about? Are you going to try to upgrade to Internal Medicine, ICU specialist or surgery?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:38 am to ArmydawgMD
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Honestly I'd rather be in WA than anywhere else in the US right now. There is something to say about the evergreen trees, the bays, waking up on Saturdays and watching CFB all day, the summer nights where there is light until 10PM that is very appealing already. As I said, it is hard to give up the good thing I have here for an unknown
That’s good information, if i were you id keep that in mind when you go into civilian practice and are deciding where in the US to set up shop.. i too love that area and it’s beauty …. But for now, if it were me id take the Germany opportunity.. Germany itself doesnt interest me much, but the opportunity to get paid to live in Europe and easily travel to places like Italy and London is golden.. as someone above mentioned , the Eastern European girls alone will make it worth ur while.. also someone else mentioned waiting til youre 60 to go to Europe- not to be morbid, but not everyone makes it to 60 or 65 yrs old.. nothing is guaranteed, live life while you have it.. Just my three cents .
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:52 am to BK Lounge
Go to Germany.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:09 am to ArmydawgMD
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I can either stay at my current duty station in Tacoma, WA or PCS overseas to Germany
I've never heard a negative thing by someone who was stationed in Germany. Every one I've talked to has loved their time there.
The extra year seems like a big deal now and I don't think it is something you shouldn't factor into your decision. I do think if you go there though, in 10 years you would make the same decision all over again.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:12 am to tiger rag 93
Financially it makes more sense to do residency while in service since your salary is 1.3-1.5x as much. Although they say the training is better on the outside, I don’t necessary believe my civilian friends have learned more than me this year, while I’ve also worked less than them. Basically I’d only do civilian in the unlikely event I don’t match (seems unlikely)
I will owe 3 or 4 years after residency depending on if I pick ophtho or rads. With radiology I’d also be pigeoned into a fellowship after service to improve employment as a civvy.
Again, Germany sounds like an incredible place, surely better than where I’m at now, no question.
The decision Im faced with is if the move overseas worth 1) not being able to apply to residency next year which potentially means missing out on matching into my career-the number of applicants fluctuate every year, but applying twice comes with higher odds of matching 2) the financial hit associated with missing out on separating earlier. It’s at least 1 year of salary ~200K but could always be another year if I fail to match again
3) uprooting again, having to sell/buy car, change phone plan, etc. etc.
I will owe 3 or 4 years after residency depending on if I pick ophtho or rads. With radiology I’d also be pigeoned into a fellowship after service to improve employment as a civvy.
Again, Germany sounds like an incredible place, surely better than where I’m at now, no question.
The decision Im faced with is if the move overseas worth 1) not being able to apply to residency next year which potentially means missing out on matching into my career-the number of applicants fluctuate every year, but applying twice comes with higher odds of matching 2) the financial hit associated with missing out on separating earlier. It’s at least 1 year of salary ~200K but could always be another year if I fail to match again
3) uprooting again, having to sell/buy car, change phone plan, etc. etc.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:19 am to ArmydawgMD
Sounds like your mind was made up before you started the thread. Letting us adventurers down who want to live vicariously through you. Money will always be there and is overrated. You don’t get to bring money to the grave but you would never forget the things you learned and experienced from living in Europe for 2 years.
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