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re: On minorities and Fixing Welfare

Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:38 am to
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:38 am to
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Most social welfare recipients are white.

Hmmm...
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According to https://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_people_in_US_are_on_welfare
https://www.chacha.com/question/what-percentage-of-people-on-welfare-are-white,-black,-or-hispanic

- 29 million people are on welfare
- 39% white: 11,661,000
- 38% black: 11,362,000

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States:
- US population: 313,544,041
- White: 72.4%: 227,005,885
- Black: 12.6%: 39,506,549

Math time!:

Whites: 11.661,000 / 227,005,885 * 100 = 5.13%
Blacks: 11,362,000 / 39,506,549 * 100 = 28.75%

That means the total percentage of all white people in america on welfare is: 5.13%

While the total percentage of all black people in america on welfare is: 28.75%



That was from 2012 and this next one is 2016. I can't say which is more accurate, but they both tell us that a higher percentage of black people are living off the system.
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Percent of welfare recipients who are white: 38.8%
Percent of welfare recipients who are black: 39.8%

Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:45 am to
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You are talking about a culture that thinks it is perfectly OK to kill someone if you think they disrespected you.


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You can't fix that shite.


You know black men used to be hanged, castrated, dragged and tortured because white men thought they MIGHT have "disrespected" white women, right?
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 10:44 am to
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You know black men used to be hanged, castrated, dragged and tortured because white men thought they MIGHT have "disrespected" white women, right?



This is true, and terrible. That said, it has nothing to do with the problems we're seeing today. It's used as a crutch, but it's not the problem.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:32 am to
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This is true, and terrible. That said, it has nothing to do with the problems we're seeing today. It's used as a crutch, but it's not the problem.


No, it's not an excuse and I didn't mean it as such. It was simply to offer perspective that whites can be just as violent and that things can change for the better.

But I don't think it's unrelated at all. Every action has a reaction, and to think that all that violence and hatred perpetrated against the black community had no recourse is shortsighted.

That said, everyone is still responsible for their own actions and it shouldn't be used as a crutch or excuse to be a terrible person.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:35 am to
I wasn't sure at first but now I am convinced you are TulaneLSU with a new schtick
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:21 pm to
I had a customer bragging how they got their sister signed up for 1,000 dollars a month in food stamps. I have a family of 5 and couldn't imagine spending 1,000 dollars a month on food.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:27 pm to
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No, it's not an excuse and I didn't mean it as such. It was simply to offer perspective that whites can be just as violent and that things can change for the better. 


I get what you were saying. Apologies if I came off wrong, but yes it's absolutely used as an excuse and a crutch.

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But I don't think it's unrelated at all. Every action has a reaction, and to think that all that violence and hatred perpetrated against the black community had no recourse is shortsighted. 


I'd argue that in, let's say Chicago, 9/10 violent criminals have no idea what really went on during those years when many whites were terrible to blacks. They're just violent, bad people. Nothing at all to do with what their grandparents went thru in the 60's.
Posted by Masterag
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:09 pm to
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I'd argue that in, let's say Chicago, 9/10 violent criminals have no idea what really went on during those years when many whites were terrible to blacks. They're just violent, bad people. Nothing at all to do with what their grandparents went thru in the 60's.


You're right, they weren't there and don't know. But they learned a violent lifestyle from the generation before them and so on. And the beginning of the the downhill slide of the black community, drugs and violence, etc. was absolutely a direct result of violence being perpetrated against them and lack of opportunity due to crow laws, unequal pay, etc. Many of whom went to war, fought for their country and had to come back and be treated like shite.

Likewise, my parents, aunts, uncles, siblings and cousins and me all graduated from college due in large part to my grandparents all having gone. And I'm sure the next generation will be the same way, all because four people decided they were going to make education a priority in their lives.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:22 pm to
So it's only a problem in America? Is there a predominantly black nation out there that is prospering? Talking to American blacks you would think it's Whitey's fault for all their issues. So if you take whitey out of the equation then blacks should be free to prosper and grow, amirite?
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:25 pm to
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But they learned a violent lifestyle from the generation before them and so on. And the beginning of the the downhill slide of the black community, drugs and violence, etc. was absolutely a direct result of violence being perpetrated against them.

It's refreshing for someone to admit that American minority culture's goal is to pay back whitey. They're certainly giving us hell.
Posted by Sody Cracker
Distemper Ward
Member since May 2016
3409 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Is there a predominantly black nation out there that is prospering?


No, there is not. Moreover, there never will be as long as the rest of the world continues to feed them.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18798 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Is there a predominantly black nation out there that is prospering?


Botswana, S. Africa, Namibia, Bahamas, Trinidad, most of the carribean I believe.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18798 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:41 pm to
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It's refreshing for someone to admit that American minority culture's goal is to pay back whitey


Either frick off or contribute something substantial. I know that's asking a lot from you.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Botswana, S. Africa, Namibia, Bahamas, Trinidad, most of the carribean I believe.


None of these are prospering nations. Botswana has a decent economy but it's still very tribal. No one's splitting the atom over there.

This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:52 pm to
Most predominantly black nations have been exploited for their resources and their governments destabilized by multiple nations over the centuries.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Either frick off or contribute something substantial

Blow me, Fat Albert.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Most predominantly black nations have been exploited for their resources and their governments destabilized by multiple nations over the centuries.


They allow themselves to be exploited. You don't see anyone walking over the British or the Japs.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Most predominantly black nations have been exploited for their resources and their governments destabilized by multiple nations over the centuries.

Then there's places like Detroit and Baltimore that have been looted by black politicians.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13154 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:19 pm to
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The crime is more a result of bad individual behavior due to lack of proper discipline.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20478 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:25 pm to
I support your workfare idea.
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