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re: Oil and gas folks please explain the whole oil /gas scarcity thing to me

Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37466 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Not sure….. how many years of oil do we have left?????


How much are you willing to pay for gas? That will determine the number of years we have left.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58109 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:45 pm to
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All the easily accessible oil has been discovered and mostly produced.


Nah. Even in the US there are several places that easily recoverable oil exist. It’s just off limits due to politics and NIMBY folks.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37466 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:47 pm to
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Even in the US there are several places that easily recoverable oil exist. It’s just off limits due to politics and NYMBY folks.


Cough*California*Cough
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3038 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:47 pm to
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how many years of oil do we have left?????


1000x longer than you will live.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted by bigtiger440
Southside, Al
Member since Sep 2009
808 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:55 pm to
Oil prices and scarcity is controled just like diamonds. John D Rockefeller pushed scarcity in the late 1800s to drive the price.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24950 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:06 pm to
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It’s not renewable in a timeframe that would be useful, so it is considered non-renewable


There is some data to suggest that it is made by some unknown process and that the earth is constantly producing. It’s not just Dino juice as once thought. There are wells that were sucked dry years ago that have refilled reservoirs
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5946 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 11:06 pm to
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Nah. Even in the US there are several places that easily recoverable oil exist. It’s just off limits due to politics and NIMBY folks.

Sixty miles due east of the Florida / Georgia state line on the Blake Plateau is one.

Destin Dome offshore Florida's West Coast is another. Florida has managed to politically avoid offshore drilling to protect their tourism industry.

Virginia offshore had some promise with State and Federal drilling permits approved until BP's Deepwaterv Horizon blowout killed it. Nothing else geophysically promising on the Atlantic Coast; the GoM is 10x more favorable geologically.

Offshore California lol but not much there, offshore Oregon & Washington State geology, nope just rocks no oil, it's been drilled.

Alaska Bering and Chukchi Seas perhaps but have a blowout there in winter and you're not killing it until summer. Fisheries industry would croak.

On U.S. Federal land, Alaska's vast ANWR requires a very tiny footprint for safe and significant production and pipeline transport. That's where I'd go if ever approved.
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 11:08 pm to
We banned oil from Russia. They were a major contributor to the global market.

Ask your president.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5185 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 11:02 am to
OffshoreTechnologyFocus "In fact, the success rate for wildcat drilling is around 30%, with only one in three wells likely to make money, says Graeme Bagley, head of global exploration and appraisal at Westwood Global Energy" jan 29, 2020

Westwood Global Energy "The commercial success rate from high impact drilling in maturing/mature plays decreased from 36% in 2021 to 30% in 2022, with failed attempts to extend the pre-salt play in the Santos and Campos basins, failures in the South Caspian, and no success from the four high impact wells drilled in NW Europe." Jan 12, 2023

Energy Institute "The success rate of global conventional oil and gas exploration has declined in recent years, but the most painful blow has been to onshore wildcat wells, according to recent analysis from Rystad Energy. In 2020, the success rate of these drilled wildcats plummeted to an all-time-low of 10.6%, marking an annual decline for a fourth year in a row." 5-3-2021



This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98602 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 11:19 am to
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In the US we have so much, that we are exporting it to Europe and the Middle East


In part because it cannot be transported by pipeline to many parts of the Northeast.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14028 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 11:29 am to
Somebody explain to me why natural gas never took off as a means to power our national automobile consumption?
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8118 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 11:43 am to
Doesn't matter. We gonna be all electric by 2030 according to Joe and the Hoe.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
479 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 11:55 am to
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more below the depths that have already been drilled


As far as usable liquid hydrocarbons, you don't find more drilling deeper. The Earth's temperature gets too high and alters the oil... think asphalt... too long in a hot oven.

There are some theoretical reasons to expect hydrogen and methane in ultra-deep holes, but that is very hard/drilling.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12446 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Similar to water?

Water is recyclable. We don’t do much of it because it’s expensive and usually smells bad.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55990 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 3:35 pm to
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In part because it cannot be transported by pipeline to many parts of the Northeast.


True that are a shortage of gas pipelines to the northeast. However, they get a lot of their energy from fuel oil which is also transported bu pipeline.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2221 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:16 pm to
Don’t forget Florida.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98602 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:17 pm to
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True that are a shortage of gas pipelines to the northeast. However, they get a lot of their energy from fuel oil which is also transported bu pipeline


1) NatGas is cheaper and cleaner

2) Fuel oil moves to distribution centers but is truck delivered to homes/buildings/businesses and is much more expensive.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6404 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:20 pm to
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Somebody explain to me why natural gas never took off as a means to power our national automobile


Does anyone else remember when GWB suggested Hydrogen powered cars, and he essentially got laughed off the stage?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29150 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:27 pm to
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I’m no petroleum engineer but it seems unlikely to run out.



Because of reasons…?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6404 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:32 pm to
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Because of reasons…


I wonder if the biologic process that converted organic matter into oil somehow ceased. Black holes don't eat matter anymore either, because reasons? F man.
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