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re: Obscure/Interesting/Quirky "American" Facts 1865-1880

Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:40 am to
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:40 am to
nobody alive then is alive now.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:47 am to
Rutherford B Hayes would often threaten to "donkey punch" congressmen who displeased him.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:47 am to
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The 1876 Presidential Election was rigged. Rutherford B. Hayes took the presidency in exchange for ending reconstruction.

True story.


This is how we ended up with Posse Comitatus. It was a way to buy-off the Southern States in favor of R. B. Hayes with the promise of the withdrawal of Federal troops.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:56 am to
Bill Compton was a southern plantation owner, who happened to be the only person in the USA at the time who looked at race with complete unbias. He later became a vampire. He now resides in a small town outside Monroe, Louisiana with his young girlfriend Sookie.

His best friend is Eric Northman, whom he met in the early '90's. But Mr. Northman, unlike Mr. Compton, is a badass mother fricker who is over 2,000 years old and hopefully will kill every other person in that town, except for his almost equally awesome ladyfriend Pam.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 7:57 am
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:58 am to
40% of the Texas State Police was black during reconstruction.
Posted by northLAgoomba
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:06 am to
In 1875, the age of sexual consent in the United States ranged from 10-12 years old, depending on each state's law.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:54 am to
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And don't come in with "state rights", because the major states rights issue was slavery


So you agree it was about states rights?
Posted by DrTyger
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:59 am to
It is speculated that Abraham Lincoln suffered from Marfan's syndrome.

Lincoln was an advocate of sending freed slaves back to Africa.

Andrew Johnson became vice president just 1 month and 11 days before Lincoln's assassination. Had Lincoln been assassinated 1 month and 12 days earlier, the 17th president would have been Hannibal Hamlin.

Lincoln had seen John Wilkes Boothe perform at Ford's Theater several times. He admired his performances so much that he even invited Boothe to the White House. Boothe refused every invitation.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:06 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:00 am to
One of the largest if not the largest slave owners in LA was a black women.
Posted by Papercutninja
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:48 am to
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And Doctor Emmett Brown invented the first ice machine and time machine from a locomotive.


1885 Brah!
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:52 am to
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Lincoln had seen John Wilkes Boothe perform at Ford's Theater several times. He admired his performances so much that he even invited Boothe to the White House
Lincoln had shitty taste

Edwin was the talented Booth



Posted by FakeName
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:53 am to
1885: the university of arizona began 129 years of abject suckiness.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:01 am to
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So you agree it was about states rights?

Yes, states rights to own slaves

Eta: that is the states rights to allow people to own slaves
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 11:02 am
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Yes, states rights to own slaves


oh...

































...so it was about state's rights
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:02 pm to
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One of the largest if not the largest slave owners in LA was a black women.


Not strictly accurate.

There were at least 4 white slaveholders in Louisiana, in the 1860 census, who held 650 or more slaves.

The largest slaveholdings of Louisiana free people of color were in the 100 to 150 range, although there were several (one of the wealthiest men in Louisiana was a suger planter in Iberville Parish, Antoine Dubuclet, a free person of color, who owned approximately 100 slaves, although several were family members.)

Dubuclet was only one of two blacks to serve as State Treasurer during Reconstruction.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:20 pm to
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The Civil War was not fought over slavery


I am surprised it took 6 replies for this to pop up.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:32 pm to
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And don't come in with "state rights", because the major states rights issue was slavery


Well - ultimately the average southerner (and even above average, Robert E. Lee, for example) did not fight to preserve the institution of slavery - perhaps it was a (not the) catalyst from the southern perspective - keeping in mind that the average southerner, although benefitting from the institution indirectly, did not have direct benefits from or contact with slavery (and perhaps that's why it persisted as a practice for so long) on a daily or weekly basis.

In any event, the catalyst from the North's perspective was a significant plurality of abolitionists - of course there were many who wanted to preserve the Union, even if slavery were to be tolerated for another generation or so (including, perhaps, Abraham Lincoln).

The price of the failure to come to a compromise, nuanced and gentle resolution to the problem was hundreds of thousands of lives and the loss of, essentially, a generation of young men.

But it was far more complicated than "slavery" or "states rights" - it defies simple explanation.
Posted by VanCleef
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:31 pm to
The average German in the 1940's didn't fight for Lebensraum, or the holocaust (etc.), but you can't remove those things from the analysis of WW2.
Soldiers in both wars were conscripts of governments who waged war for reasons that people today see as immoral.
All of these years later, some people still don't want to admit that the CSA, like Germany in the 1940's, was on the wrong side of history.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Well - ultimately the average southerner (and even above average, Robert E. Lee, for example) did not fight to preserve the institution of slavery - perhaps it was a (not the) catalyst from the southern perspective - keeping in mind that the average southerner, although benefitting from the institution indirectly, did not have direct benefits from or contact with slavery (and perhaps that's why it persisted as a practice for so long) on a daily or weekly basis.

And the average German infantry wasn't fighting for a pure German race and world domination, the average soldier under Caesar wasn't fighting for his political gain, the average soldier in the Persian army wasn't fighting for Persian glory over Greece, and the average man under Alexander wasn't fighting for Macedonian domination and eternal glory for Alexander.

Soldiers fight because they're told to fight, and because they're paid to fight (in some cases). Just because not everyone is doing it for a reason doesn't mean it wasn't a part of it.

I'm not claiming slavery was 100% the cause of the war, but it was certainly a driving factor
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:43 am to
They lived in a slave based economy, but it if fell, everyone suffered.
That's like arguing that only people in the banking industry suffered during the great depression. It's faulty reasoning.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 2:45 am
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