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Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:45 am to Kafka
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I'm amazed that I grew up knowing my relatives who fought in ww1
It's a bit jarring to realize the civil war was only two lifetimes ago
My father and father-in-law both served in WWI - FIL got 2 purple hearts.
I have 3 great-grandfathers who fought in Civil War - the 4th claimed he was "too old" so he hid out, dodging the searchers for holdouts.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:10 am to Darth_Vader
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The worst maritime disaster in Anerican history happened in 1865 whe the riverboat Sultana exploded and sank on the Mississippi River near Memphis. The country barely noticed however due to the fact President Lincoln had been killed the day before.
Close. Boothe was killed the day before. Lincoln was assassinated 12 days earlier.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:23 am to JudgeHolden
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Then it should have been. It's immoral and the South deserved to lose because of it.
The only reason the north didn't have slaves too was because it wasn't economical.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:27 am to Breadstick Gun
I love how a thread talking about interesting American facts from 1865-1880 turns into a debate about the causes of the Civil War.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:28 am to ChineseBandit58
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My father and father-in-law both served in WWI - FIL got 2 purple hearts.
I have 3 great-grandfathers who fought in Civil War - the 4th claimed he was "too old" so he hid out, dodging the searchers for holdouts.
Mine were in every US war starting from the Revolutionary War. Have two that were in the Civil War also, one was captured at Gettysburg. Interesting note to that one was that the POW camp was about 10 miles or so from our house at our last duty station in MD.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:33 am to Tiger1242
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I'm not claiming slavery was 100% the cause of the war, but it was certainly a driving factor
Where did I suggest slavery wasn't a catalyst? I said a significant plurality of northerners, particularly those remote from the "border" were idealistic abolitionists. I also said it was a catalyst from the southern perspective, but not the catalyst.
Going back to my Robert E. Lee example - as the most prominent military leader of the south, perhaps the war (with all due deference to U.S. Grant) and there is NO QUESTION he would have led the Union Army if Virginia had not seceded.
Would he have been fighting to end slavery? No. Of course not. If Virginia hadn't seceded, the war would have been over in 18 months and the Emancipation Proclamation wouldn't have been issued and XIII, XIV and XV Amendments would never have been ratified.
Going back to Lincoln - the de facto leader of the abolition movement - he was quoted frequently that he was willing to accept the continuation of slavery in order to preserve the Union. So, was he lying? Honest Abe Lincoln? Or was he conceding that preservation of the Union was more important - at least at that moment in history - than rapid abolition?
Now, was the secession movement driven by the fear of the abolition agenda on the part of Southerners? Certainly.
Again - as I said - far more complicated than people want to suggest. Thomas Jefferson - a Virginia slaveholder until the day he died - wanted to skewer slavery in the DOI.
It's a shame that calmer heads did not prevail. If there had been a calm, orderly transition to Emancipation, without all the bloodshed, perhaps we wouldn't be dealing with many of the negative after effects today.
[sarcasm] But, yeah - it was all about slavery. That's easy, simple bumper sticker language. [/sarcasm]
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 7:35 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:36 am to Ace Midnight
Probably the best post and response. 
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:36 am to GetCocky11
quote:Let's see if we can turn it into a Rate Her
I love how a thread talking about interesting American facts from 1865-1880 turns into a debate about the causes of the Civil War
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:40 am to Kafka
Need to see more before I can determine if IWHI... 
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:40 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:I had a great GF or great uncle or something who got drafted in WWI. During training marches he would secretly fall out near the beginning, rest up in the bushes while the other marched 20 miles, then join back in when they marched by him again just before the end
I have 3 great-grandfathers who fought in Civil War - the 4th claimed he was "too old" so he hid out, dodging the searchers for holdouts.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:44 am to LuckySo-n-So
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In 1871, John Wesley Hardin shot a man for snoring.
Somebody watched too many of the Time- Life commercials
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:46 am to fatboydave
quote:Just a FYI but that Time-Life book series The Old West is fricking awesome
Somebody watched too many of the Time- Life commercials
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:47 am to Kafka
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I had a great GF or great uncle or something who got drafted in WWI. During training marches he would secretly fall out near the beginning, rest up in the bushes while the other marched 20 miles, then join back in when they marched by him again just before the end
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:00 am to Kafka
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Just a FYI but that Time-Life book series The Old West is fricking awesome
I remember these commercials would play during the Gilligan's Island and Jeanie reruns after school.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:09 am to Breadstick Gun
April 1940, 212 people were killed in the rhythm night club fire in Natchez,Ms
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