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re: North Korea sentences American student 15 years hard labor
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:04 am to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:04 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:This comment is relevant to tons and tons of situations. I don't think this is one of them. No hyperbole...this is evil. Pure evil.
Somebody said there is a way the world is and the way you think it should be.
I'm no even getting all "USA USA USA" on you. They torture and murder their own as well. People responsible for it need to die. And we need to get this stupid arse kid back.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 10:06 am
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:06 am to ReauxlTide222
How exactly is it evil? He was in their country. He broke their law. Now he is subject to their punishment. Sounds to me like we should do more of that in this country.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:07 am to shel311
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I'm guessing if your best friend, mother/father, brother, child or whoever did something stupid like drinking and driving,
That is horrible. Very unsatisfying to only be able to blame the dead. Same applies here.
This guy is just more ridiculous. Drunk driving is stupid and selfish, but usually does not involve pre meditation many times. This guy planned this trip and probably spent a lot of time and coin to get there. Stirred shite and cot caught.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:09 am to Iron Lion
quote:How is imprisoning people in a camp where many lose eyes and limbs and who knows what else....while being starved...for petty theft....evil? Are you fricking serious?
How exactly is it evil?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:11 am to shel311
quote:If you see the post I made about you in the Duke lacrosse thread....don't hate me
shel311
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:12 am to ReauxlTide222
Perception is reality. What you say is petty may not be petty to them. He's not a child, he's a grown man that broke the law in a foreign country that has severe punishments. He knew this and decided to steal something anyway. I'm not saying their punishments are right. It's pretty obvious they are wrong. But what makes him special?
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:13 am to Iron Lion
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Perception is reality. What you say is petty may not be petty to them. He's not a child, he's a grown man that broke the law in a foreign country that has severe punishments. He knew this and decided to steal something anyway.
Cruel and unusual punishment?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:14 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Drunk driving is stupid and selfish, but usually does not involve pre meditation many times. This guy planned this trip and probably spent a lot of time and coin to get there. Stirred shite and cot caught.
seems to be a pretty fair comparison to be honest. Sounds like the guy went with a tour group. They all got drunk and stole a few things. Hardly the worth the punishment.
At this point we really don't know what he did. I have no reason to trust NK especially with them just doing another nuke test.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:14 am to ReauxlTide222
Chances are highly likely this kid didn't actually steAL anything. The fact that they make him read a prepared statement claiming he was paid by the US government and some American church to steal the sign is all the proof you need. Why we don't just mow that entire shut hole down to the ground I don't know.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:15 am to Jorts R Us
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Cruel and unusual punishment
It's not the USA
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:16 am to ReauxlTide222
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This comment is relevant to tons and tons of situations. I don't think this is one of them. No hyperbole...this is evil. Pure evil.
And this guy went there... HE went.
Would you feel pity for a guy who went to Juarez wearing a "Zetas are Bitches" t-shirt. Or punched a cartel member in the face?
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They torture and murder their own as well. People responsible for it need to die.
I do not disagree.
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And we need to get this stupid arse kid back.
How? Are there any more sanctions that we can place? How many other lives should we risk by sending a group over to negotiate?
North Korea being evil and this guy being an idiot are individual issues.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:17 am to Iron Lion
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It's not the USA
Obviously. It's still cruel and unusual and yes, evil to subject someone to those conditions for something so petty (if he even did it). If you think the punishment fits the crime, I think you are nuts.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:18 am to Iron Lion
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But what makes him special?
he is a American and we give them millions of dollars in Aid every single year. They will just use him as a way to get more.
They don't give a frick about stealing anything. They will run his face on their news and make seem like some big victory to their sheep.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:18 am to Jorts R Us
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Cruel and unusual punishment
Unfortunately that only works in civilized countries. He is in a place where cruel and unusual is the norm. I normally don't feel compassion for people that do incredibly stupid things but I just wish the US would try to get him out of there.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:18 am to LSU alum wannabe
Any children of the 90s remember the hipster that got caught stealing in Singapore. He got sentenced to a few lashes of a cane across his arse and the entire nation freaked out.
ETA: Wiki article
ETA: Wiki article
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:18 am to Iron Lion
quote:
How exactly is it evil? He was in their country. He broke their law. Now he is subject to their punishment. Sounds to me like we should do more of that in this country.
Speaking more of their actions in general..
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Sounds to me like we should do more of that in this country.
Oh.... Nevermind.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:19 am to Jorts R Us
I never said it did. What I'm saying is when you're in someone else's house you abide by their rules. If you don't then you suffer the consequences even if people don't agree with them.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:20 am to Iron Lion
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I never said it did.
Did you not say "how is it evil?" I get your point, but I don't see how you can argue that the punishment isn't evil.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:21 am to Iron Lion
quote:There is no way in hell you're being serious right now
Perception is reality. What you say is petty may not be petty to them
I understand this. None of the shite you're saying applies to North Korea torturing people to death. Getting 3 years for having a gun in NYC is nuts, but that's how they do it. That's understandable. What North Korea does is not even fathomable. Think about the places that chop off your hand for theft. THOSE PLACES ARE BETTER THAN NORTH KOREA
Given the choice, I'd chop my own damn hand off and come home before I spent 15 years losing body parts and dying of starvation. Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:22 am to Hammertime
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Some places should be avoided. I guess he's figuring that out the hard way. A lot of people think everywhere in the world is so beautiful and awesome, and the US is garbage. They have no idea how the rest of the world works. Now he knows
Hammertime, you probably agree with me on this:
Most people learn life's hard lessons the hard way.
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