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re: "No Refusal" Checkpoints start tonight, through the weekend
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:41 pm to MikeBRLA
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:41 pm to MikeBRLA
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And how would they know any of this unless they stopped someone's vehicle and conducted a search??? Without a warrant I might add.
I'm talking about if it is in plain view. An example would be an open beer sitting in a cup holder that could be seen though the window. I know a guy who got hemmed up from that.
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:44 pm to NYNolaguy1
The kind we evil government agents hid in an aliens anus at our secret moon base that you're just so close to finding in between yelling at random officers questions of your detainment. 
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:47 pm to Rebelgator
Fortunately there's no car for me to drive, so that's not a concern. 
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:51 pm to Rebelgator
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But, that would make sense. The posters here are too cool to follow basic logic.
aren't you a known drunk?Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:53 pm to Murray
"Good thing Uber fixed Yellow Cab"
Who is Uber? I met this Russian dude- Simon Garber, who owns YEllow Cab in NYC, Chicago and Moscow. Does he own N.O. As well?
Who is Uber? I met this Russian dude- Simon Garber, who owns YEllow Cab in NYC, Chicago and Moscow. Does he own N.O. As well?
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:53 pm to TigerBait2008
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aren't you a known drunk?
No. I've also never gotten behind the wheel after drinking.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:54 pm to Chum Bucket
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Uber
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Uber is a venture-funded startup and transportation network company based in San Francisco, California, that makes mobile apps that connect passengers with drivers of vehicles for hire and ridesharing services.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:56 pm to Rebelgator
Thanks for that. Didn't know if the Russians were taking over Louisiana like they are South FL.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:59 pm to Chum Bucket
Nope. We've got Uber and Lyft in Memphis. It's a pretty neat concept, but I've yet to try it. The cars are marked with large pink moustaches that attach to the front grill. They look hilarious on the right car.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:00 pm to theantiquetiger
It would be interesting if a libertarian/ACLU like group decided to plant a large number of people as drivers in these checkpoints.
Although the discussions always center around public safety my suspicion is the motivation is for department profit. If this is the motivation, then the department having to pay to BAC test a large number of sober people would make it costly rather than profitable.
Although the discussions always center around public safety my suspicion is the motivation is for department profit. If this is the motivation, then the department having to pay to BAC test a large number of sober people would make it costly rather than profitable.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:17 pm to Chum Bucket
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Thanks for that. Didn't know if the Russians were taking over Louisiana like they are South FL.
Hey, don't insult my business partners like that
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:18 pm to molsusports
if i'm traveling I shouldn't have to prove that i'm sober.
and after refusing, no one has the right to stab me with a needle against my will. that is assault.
and after refusing, no one has the right to stab me with a needle against my will. that is assault.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:20 pm to monsterballads
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no one has the right to stab me with a needle against my will.
A cop or a trained person with a warrant does
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:22 pm to The Dudes Rug
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You wouldn't have to take a field sobriety test unless they think you are impaired.
Wrong.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:27 pm to theantiquetiger
Guess we'll see how well my luck holds up
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:28 pm to monsterballads
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if i'm traveling I shouldn't have to prove that i'm sober.
if you are driving in a strange fashion then I think it would be reasonable to test for sobriety. I think the opposite is true if the police or others stop people at "random". That is probably going to be inconsistently done and amounts to unreasonable search and seizure IMO. I think the search is reasonable if you are driving like an idiot.
Like I argued above, if this is really about profit then the thing to do is to have a large number of sober people refuse the sobriety check point and force them to spend the money performing a blood alcohol test.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:32 pm to Rebelgator
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But, that would make sense. The posters here are too cool to follow basic logic.
Don't drink, and still think it's wrong. Another reason Americans (rightfully) distrust law enforcement and the CJ system
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:34 pm to molsusports
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The basic logic is this.
I shouldn't be stopped and given a field sobriety test without reasonable suspicion.
The Ben Franklin quote nailed it.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:37 pm to theantiquetiger
thoughts n prayers Walt! 
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:40 pm to theantiquetiger
Nothing like saying "Happy Birthday America" by sticking needles in innocent citizens' arms. What a joke this country turned out to be.
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