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New York police department is confiscating legal guns from MC members

Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:42 pm
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On Thursday October 22nd, the SCPD contacted a member of the Pagans MC and informed him that his legal permit issued by Suffolk County was under review because of his alleged membership in the Pagans MC. The SCPD requested that he come down to the station for an interview and bring all 10 of his legally purchased and registered handguns.

The member, in good faith, says he went down to the station with his legal handguns in order to be interviewed. This member has absolutely no criminal record and he had been legally issued a permit. He thought he could clear it up, he says.

The man says he was told that as a member of the Pagans his only options were to either voluntarily terminate his permit and turn his guns over or his permit would be involuntarily terminated and he would lose all of his guns unable to transfer them to a legal owner.


Guess the cops are saying frick the 2nd, 4th, & 14th amendments


ETA: Not sure what happened to the link. The site was working until a moment ago.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:43 pm to
Good. Glad they got his gun before he could kill anyone.

That's good police work right there.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:43 pm to
wtf is Pagans MC
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:44 pm to
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Pagans MC


Sounds like a gang.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:45 pm to
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wtf is Pagans MC


They're one of the biggest 1%er motorcycle clubs in the world.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:46 pm to
A gang of gang bangers with a violent criminal history...that's the Pagans.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:48 pm to
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A gang of gang bangers with a violent criminal history...that's the Pagans.


so you're good with the cops being able to confiscate the legally purchased firearms and carry permit from a person who has no criminal record nor is accused or even suspected of any crime simply because they belong to a motorcycle club?
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:50 pm to
it would behoove you to spell out "motorcycle" because no one has any idea what you're talking about otherwise
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

so you're good with the cops being able to confiscate the legally purchased firearms and carry permit from a person who has no criminal record nor is accused or even suspected of any crime simply because they belong to a motorcycle club?



Didn't you just say they were a one-percenter (i.e. outlaw) motorcycle club?
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:50 pm to
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wtf is Pagans MC



Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:51 pm to
I'm going to need more details that aren't from some gang banger website which is currently down by the way.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:52 pm to
NYC? Not even a little surprised.

If true, that dude with the help of the NRA will own a really nice penthouse over looking central park soon
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:53 pm to
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They're one of the biggest 1%er motorcycle clubs in the world.

Next the bloods and the crips. I'm all for confiscating legally owned guns if the owner has gang tats or affiliation.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:55 pm to
I'm in favor of putting these guys in jail so we don't have to go through the potential second amendment infringements.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:55 pm to
Darth,

This article says the Pagans only have 250 or so members. Is that your understanding as well?

LINK
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:56 pm to
Twin Peaks will be safe
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

idn't you just say they were a one-percenter (i.e. outlaw) motorcycle club?


1%er =/= criminal. This guy had no criminal record nor had he been charged with or suspected in any crime.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:58 pm to
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Darth,

This article says the Pagans only have 250 or so members. Is that your understanding as well?

LINK


I have no idea what their numbers are. The number of members any club actually his is always a closely guarded secret. If you ever ask a member of an MC how many members they have they'll usually answer with "more than a few but not enough" or something similar.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:00 pm to
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1%er =/= criminal. This guy had no criminal record nor had he been charged with or suspected in any crime.



The term "One percenter" is a reference to the American Motorcycle Association's claim that "99% of motorcyclists are good, decent, law-abiding citizens." I don't know what other conclusion can be drawn by calling oneself a "One percenter" than that one is not a good, decent, law-abiding citizen.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:05 pm to
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The term "One percenter" is a reference to the American Motorcycle Association's claim that "99% of motorcyclists are good, decent, law-abiding citizens." I don't know what other conclusion can be drawn by calling oneself a "One percenter" than that one is not a good, decent, law-abiding citizen.



This is probably a waste of my time to try and explain it to you but here goes. A 1%er is someone who decides to live outside societal norms which includes living by their own sense of right and wrong. Are there 1%er's who are criminals? Yes, of course there are. But while it's true some 1%ers are criminals, that is not true for all, or even most of them.

To give you a point of reference that you might understand, 1%ers are sort of like hippies without the granola, flowers, and Berkenstocks.
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