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re: Need help with this WWI Victory Medal we found

Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
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Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:43 pm to
Etoile Irene Ziolkowski- Daughter

Etoile Ziolkowski Obituary

Etoile is survived by her husband, Harold Walter of Lewistown; son Harold Walter Jr. (Butch) and his wife Catherine Seibert; daughter Etoile Denise, her husband Jack Gies and children Vincent and Emily Etoile; son Peter Michael, his wife Collette (Greer) and children Stefan and Teal; son Timothy Allen, his son Luke and daughters Bronwyn, Michaela, Brianna and Myisha; son James Raymond and his daughter Brooklyn; and son Joseph Paul, his wife Bree (Stanley), daughters Hayden, Sophia and son Cooper Joe. Etoile's great-grandchildren are Dylan and Lily Smart (Michaela), Derick and Ava Thronson (Myisha and Andy), Morella Ziolkowski (Stefan and Maggie) and Azaelya Pates (Teal and Julien).



Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:49 pm to
Her eldest son is 64, and lives in Lewiston MT. I don't know if it is OK to post his address.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12367 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:50 pm to
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Antique Tiger can get you pointed in the right direction.


I doubt this dude can

The other guy for sure can
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
92 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:57 pm to
Happenstance. This is my buddy Benny though. Both the luckiest and unluckiest person alive. About 40 years ago he was literally ran over head to toe by a road roller. I think it broke every bone in his body. While on leave, was shot twice in the arm when deer hunting. Blind in one eye, deaf in one ear, one crushed nut, but no excuses.
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18660 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 10:19 pm to
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About 40 years ago he was literally ran over head to toe by a road roller. I think it broke every bone in his body. While on leave, was shot twice in the arm when deer hunting. Blind in one eye, deaf in one ear, one crushed nut, but no excuses.
It sounds like he's the one in need of a Victory Medal.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7095 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 10:57 pm to
Sorry I can't help. My knowledge on medals and ribbons is very limited.

Amazing research.. outstanding.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 6/17/23 at 11:13 pm to
5 minutes into any chemical spill you got baws in the bathroom giving live status updates.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
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Posted on 6/17/23 at 11:58 pm to
This site never ceases to amaze me!
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:35 am to
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ETA: These are the names of his grandchildren. In 2018 they lived in Montana.

Harold Walter "Butch" Ziolkowski Jr.
Peter Michael Ziolkowski
Timothy Allen Ziolkowski
James Raymond Ziolkowski
Joseph Paul Ziolkowski
Etoile Denise Gies


Bunch of SKIs. Bet they're glad someone moved to Canada before WW2.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:56 am to
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Harold Walter "Butch" Ziolkowski Jr. Peter Michael Ziolkowski Timothy Allen Ziolkowski James Raymond Ziolkowski Joseph Paul Ziolkowski Etoile Denise Gies


The family is pretty easy to locate on Facebook.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8193 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:59 am to
Kind of cool that you found the medal or at least posted this thread on basically his birthday
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:03 am to
Need 2 things to give a proper response

#1 pics (front and back) of medal

#2 pics of your wife
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:04 am to
Just for future reference my friend, go to IMGBB.com, upload a picture, select "full linked" and paste that link into the "img" Markup to the right of the post. It's simple and free.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:08 am to
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no excuses


That is old school!

My generation was that way but we have gone from survivors to victims.

"I used to complain about the discomfort of my shoes till I met a man with no feet"

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19144 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:15 am to
A little off topic, but sitting in front of an old church in Bessemer AL is an old WW1 German cannon. I’m not sure the full backstory but I was told it was brought back home after the war and has been there ever since. Used to crawl all over it when we were kids attending family reunions.



This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 8:25 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54973 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:44 am to
Precursor to the lethal 88 of WW II?

In WW II the 88 cut through most allied armor like butter. Best early armor against it was the Matilda from Britain but it had such a crappy gun you had to get really close to your target and hope you had not been penetrated while getting closer.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7095 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:50 am to
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Kind of cool that you found the medal or at least posted this thread on basically his birthday




I thought the same thing.

One big question. How does a medal like this end up lost out in the yard or field to be medal detected years later? Kids maybe?
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:07 am to
I was going to suggest submitting a story about this to “Western & Eastern Treasures” metal detecting magazine. They loved to publish stories about returning old high school rings, etc to the families of the original owners. Sadly, it looks like W&E Treasures stopped publication (digital; hard copy stopped a while back) after 57 years.

Regardless, Im sure there are sites that would be happy to publish this story after it unfolds. Take pics, etc and document things as you go along.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19144 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:09 am to
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Precursor to the lethal 88 of WW II? In WW II the 88 cut through most allied armor like butter. Best early armor against it was the Matilda from Britain but it had such a crappy gun you had to get really close to your target and hope you had not been penetrated while getting closer.


Possibly. I did some more digging and it’s possible that what I was told about the gun as a child is wrong or im just misremembering the details. This is what it says about the gun.

quote:

Kanone 18 (Field Gun), German Artillery, WWII, located in Bessemer, Alabama

Kanone 18 (Field Gun), German Artillery, WWII, located in Bessemer, Alabama. The 10 cm schwere Kanone 18 (10 cm sK 18) was a field gun used by Germany in World War II. The German army wanted a new 10 cm gun as well as 15 cm howitzer, which were to share the same carriage. Guns are heavier than howitzers due to the longer barrel. This also led to the 15 cm sFH 18. As such both weapons had a similar weight and could be carried by a similar carriage. By 1926 Krupp and Rheinmetall had specimen designs, and prototypes were ready by 1930, but was not fielded until 1933–34. Both Krupp and Rheinmetall competed for the development contract, but the Wehrmacht compromised and selected Krupp's carriage to be mated with Rheinmetall's gun
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:38 am to
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Maybe this is the wrong forum but I trust someone here can give me some hints.


This is the way.

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