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Need help with this WWI Victory Medal we found

Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
90 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:43 pm
Maybe this is the wrong forum but I trust someone here can give me some hints.
My buddy and I have been metal detecting an old yard where he found a WWI Victory medal. Stenciled/stamped on the edge is 190168 PTE D.H.McPherson 4-C.M.R.
Not sure I got the spacing exactly right but he'd like to identify the guy and maybe track down the family. From what I read the recipient's name, rank, service number and unit were impressed on the edge of the medal.
Anyone able to tell me how best to track this family d own?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30279 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:45 pm to
Wow. That's an awesome find and this thread has some serious potential.

I'm of no help, but may WWII Collector or Antique Tiger can get you pointed in the right direction.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3496 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:48 pm to
Pics?
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
176090 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:48 pm to
where r u?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6559 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:50 pm to
Postimage is easy to use if you don’t know how to post pictures, I’d really like to see this medal.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64686 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Postimage is easy to use if you don’t know how to post pictures, I’d really like to see this medal.


Should look something like this..


Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4858 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:53 pm to
4th Canadian mounted rifles might be what the cmr stands for.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50621 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:56 pm to
Awesome find, and good on y'all for trying to locate the owner.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4858 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:59 pm to
190168 would be the regiment number.
Fairly confident he was a Canadian military man, 4th brigade. Google search picked up a few things.
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
749 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:02 pm to


MCPHERSON, DOUGLAS HERMAN
Date Of Birth 1897-06-16
Regimental Number 190168
Reference Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF), RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 7180 - 15

Here is the basic info on him.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6559 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

MCPHERSON, DOUGLAS HERMAN Date Of Birth 1897-06-16 Regimental Number 190168 Reference Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF), RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 7180 - 15 Here is the basic info on him.


God bless the internet, the fact you were able to find that information that quick is still mind boggling to me.
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
90 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:11 pm to
I'm not smart enough to do pics (southern Ohio), but if you punch in Victory Medal (United Kingdom) in Wikipedia you'll see the exact medal. I copied this from the article ....

The obverse shows the winged, full-length, full-front, figure of 'Victory' (or 'Victoria') with her left arm extended and holding a palm branch in her right hand,[7] similar to the statue surmounting the Queen Victoria Memorial, in front of Buckingham Palace in London.
The reverse has the words "THE GREAT / WAR FOR / CIVILISATION / 1914–1919" in four lines, all surrounded by a laurel wreath.[7]
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:16 pm to
And yet the search for his family is only beginning
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
90 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:17 pm to
About 20 miles south of Athens,Ohio (Joe Burrow 's home town)
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
90 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:20 pm to
You guys are amazing! That's why I adopted you as my southern family.
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
693 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:21 pm to
shite, these people can have someone go knock on his family’s front door with some food if you say the word.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6559 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

About 20 miles south of Athens,Ohio (Joe Burrow 's home town)


Did y’all think something might be on the property, or was this just happenstance?
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8290 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:27 pm to
ETA: These are the names of his grandchildren. In 2018 they lived in Montana.

Harold Walter "Butch" Ziolkowski Jr.
Peter Michael Ziolkowski
Timothy Allen Ziolkowski
James Raymond Ziolkowski
Joseph Paul Ziolkowski
Etoile Denise Gies

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LINK

Douglas Herman “Mac” McPherson

BIRTH
16 Jun 1898
St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada

DEATH
24 Jul 1985 (aged 87)
Great Falls, Cascade County, Montana, USA

BURIAL
Calvary Cemetery
Lewistown, Fergus County, Montana, USA

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This is his daughter, passed away in 2011. According to this he has six grandchildren.

LEWISTOWN - Etoile Irene (McPherson) Ziolkowski, 76, who was known as a devoted homemaker and spiritual light for her family, was active in numerous community and church activities and enjoyed gardening, birding, quilting, collecting angels, stars and special stones, and traveling with her husband to Dixieland concerts and dances, died of undetermined natural causes Thursday, July 14, in Lewistown.
Survivors include her husband of 54 years, 6 children, a sister, a brother, a half-brother, 13 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.

Complete obituary published in Great Falls Tribune on July 19, 2011

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She was married to

Harold Walter “Doc” Ziolkowski, 86, passed into the arms of his Lord and Savior on Jan. 17, 2018. Harry was born in Goodman, Wisconsin, on Aug. 22, 1931 to Walter and Mary Ziolkowski.

He worked various jobs following graduation from Goodman High School (1949), before joining the U.S. Air Force, rising to the rank of sergeant, and was stationed in Billings, Montana, where he met the love of his life, and future wife, Etoile Irene McPherson

Children, Harold Walter "Butch" Ziolkowski Jr., Peter Michael Ziolkowski, Timothy Allen Ziolkowski, James Raymond Ziolkowski, Joseph Paul Ziolkowski, and Etoile Denise Gies, all of Montana.






This post was edited on 6/17/23 at 9:43 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
176090 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:29 pm to
goddamn gays putting rainbows on everything
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39189 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:32 pm to
He joined the military at 18 years and 9 months. He was 5'09" with fair skin, dk brown hair and blue eyes. He was from Ontario.

Joining up paperwork
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