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Need Help for an Alcoholic Family Member

Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:04 am
Posted by Dunder Mifflin
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2009
608 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:04 am
We've tried everything. Total denial. He's almost died twice in the last two years due to sepsis. He drinks brandy every night to help him sleep. Are there any products out there that I can slip into his brandy bottle to make it taste terrible?

I hope I came to the right place. We don't want to lose him. He's been like a father to me for a long time. Thank you.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120303 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:04 am to
How much does he drink?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:

How much does he drink?


I am guessing a frick ton if he has had sepsis twice.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35541 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Are there any products out there that I can slip into his brandy bottle to make it taste terrible? 


Wtf?


If he doesn't want better for himself, it'll be hard to do anything. Some people never see the light and end up dying. I hope that is not the case for your family member.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68314 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Are there any products out there that I can slip into his brandy bottle to make it taste terrible?



Taste xoesnt matter to an alcoholic


<----- he knows
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6457 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I hope I came to the right place.


Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57240 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 am to
You cannot help somebody who does not want help. I speak from terrible experience.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:07 am to
Kids and family worked for us. I had a family member drive drunk on a regular basis. His kids told him he wasn't allowed to see the grandkids until he sobered up.

Took him a while but they held their word. After missing a few major events and not being invited to a few others he would start going 2-3 days at a time, which was a big achievement. It took him a while but eventually he straightened out.

Best of luck to you and yours.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108557 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Are there any products out there that I can slip into his brandy bottle to make it taste terrible?


That's not going to stop an alcoholic. Taste is merely a perk, not the end goal. He needs the alcohol, and he'll get it anyway he sees fit.

quote:

We've tried everything.


Rehab?
Posted by Tingle
1173 Tallow Tree Lane
Member since Sep 2013
4558 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

We don't want to lose him. He's been like a father to me for a long time.
Have you told him this?
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3581 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:08 am to
Antabuse will make him violently ill and throw up if he drinks but he has to take the pills every day. To be honest, they have to want to change before taking any other steps so accept what happens whichever path they take
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83937 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:09 am to
quote:

He's almost died twice in the last two years due to sepsis. He drinks brandy every night to help him sleep. Are there any products out there that I can slip into his brandy bottle to make it taste terrible?


If he drinks that much I can assure you taste has little to do with it.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38741 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:11 am to
Would it be that hard just to have a drink with the guy and discuss his problems? Sounds like he just needs a trusted drinking buddy, not someone who wants to go behind his back and tamper with his private property.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:11 am to
Have an intervention like on The Office.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Antabuse will make him violently ill and throw up if he drinks but he has to take the pills every day.


I have heard about this... but yeah they have to take the pills every day or it won't work. So... they have to want to get better.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:18 am to
If he doesn't want to get better, he won't. If he wants to get better, there will still be plenty of times where he screws up.

Dr. Drew always says support the recovery not the addiction.

Also try al anon meetings, they are honestly for things like this.
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 9:19 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:26 am to
quote:

make him violently ill and throw up


If I wanted to be violently ill and throw up everyday, I'd just keep drinking
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16877 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:28 am to
Are you in BR? If so, try the TAU center.

If he gets aggressive, have him committed.
Posted by darnol91
Member since Jun 2015
749 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:28 am to
I recently watched a friend go through a similar situation with his father. It's terribly sad. His dad knew he was an alcoholic, though, but he figured since he had been doing it so long and nothing bad had happened up until that point. After 6 months or so of his family urging, they finally tried an alternate route. They had taken him to a psychiatrist, but he did not trust him. So, they took him to his long term primary care physician, who he had been lying to about his alcohol abuse. It was a joint appointment with the gentleman's two children (adult age) and wife. It worked. It wasnt overnight, but buddy told me he said it "meant more" to his father coming from a doctor he trusted. It was by no means overnight, but he has begun his road to recovery. Luckily for them there were no big accidents, or disease, at that point. Hopefully he sticks to it!

Try seeing if the gentleman has a doctor he trusts/is his friend that will consult with him and his family/you. Ask him what he is most comfortable doing, and explain that you are only doing it because you care, but that you will support him no matter what his decision is. If you can get him in with someone he trusts, and is also a medical professional, maybe that particular professional can speak on the affects, long term and short term, including family problems, that comes with what he is doing. Keep trying, and dont give up. Who means the most to him in the entire world? Children? Grand children? Have them tell him how important he is, and that he is hurting himself and them. This doesnt work with everyone, but it worked with my father on both alcohol and cigarettes. After I told him when I was around 9, he quit cold turkey. My mom on the other hand, she just feels attacked if we approach it in that way. I've come to the point that she will probably never change.

ETA: Best of luck! Stay strong and never quit fighting for those you care about!
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 9:29 am
Posted by Dunder Mifflin
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2009
608 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:34 am to
Thanks for the advice everybody. I really appreciate it. We've tried everything thing in the book short of Baker acting him. He denies he is drinking hard liquor, but I can see the levels of the bottles keep going down every day. It's sad.

What's also sad is that his wife won't help either as she has the same problem. The whole family can see it except for those two. Everyone has had quiet conversations with him telling him we love him and need him.

I guess a full blow intervention has to be the next step, but I don't think it will go very well. Should we try to isolate him away from his wife during the intervention since she may interfere with it? He is a retired military big wig, so it is very difficult for us to try to "preach" to someone who has fought in Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.

Thanks again.
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