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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:00 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:00 pm
I have a GFCI outlet that I want to replace with an outlet that has USB ports. It is on our kitchen island so I don't want to put one of those USB adapters over it because of aesthetic reasoning.

It is the only outlet on the breaker and the breaker is tied to the refrigerator breaker.

What are my options that keep me compliant with code?

I live in Lafayette Parish.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:05 pm to
Just change it out with a gfi with USB ports
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:06 pm to
Or you could change the breaker to a gfi breaker and put in a receptacle with ports if you do choose, but that will cost more
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 7:07 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:16 pm to
I haven't found existing GFI outlets with USB.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56027 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:22 pm to
A single GFCI receptacle generally protects everything in the circuit...this circuit may include some combination of kitchen, bathroom, garage, etc.

just trip the GFCI to see what outlets in your house stop working. Then replace one of the other outlets with a GFCI and replace the current GFCI with a USB outlet.


I am no electrician, but this would be my guess.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

I haven't found existing GFI outlets with USB.



Would have been new to me also.
Let me think.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:31 pm to
I think my only option is to put a gang box right there but I've decided to replace another outlet that is standard.

Thanks anyway guys.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37324 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:36 pm to
Only God and electricians make light.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:37 pm to
You can protect the breaker and be code compliant still.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:41 pm to
quote:


Would have been new to me also.
Let me think.
i think legrand makes one that goes in a pop up in counter box, but I can't find it without the whole set up
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:46 pm to
I could do this but then I have an outlet unprotected.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:47 pm to
Everything on the circuit would be protected
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:48 pm to
Swamp people board
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

just trip the GFCI to see what outlets in your house stop working. Then replace one of the other outlets with a GFCI and replace the current GFCI with a USB outlet.


Problem is, if he has 4 outlets down stream he'll have to install GFI's in each to be code compliant.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:57 pm to
It looks like there is just one outlet down stream. I guess I could put the GFI on the end and my USB in the first spot. Would that be compliant?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:58 pm to
Yeah you're right. I'm dumb.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6355 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:09 pm to
What is the proximity of the outlet a water source?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30295 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:14 pm to
The GFI outlet is in the wall above a half island. The standard outlet is in the half island. No sink in island.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

dkreller
Here's the deal in most of LA.
Receptacles that are non dedicated in kitchen areas are to be GFI protected.
Your problem is that you want a specific place to plug in your USB w/o being GFI protected. In your situation you can't do it, legally as I see it.
How about working within the system?
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

What is the proximity of the outlet a water source?

Does not matter as of years ago! If in a kitchen and non dedicated it's got to be protected.
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