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NCAA athlete lost scholarship due to YouTube channel
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:05 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:05 am
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I'm torn on this decision by UCF and the NCAA. By all accounts, this kid had enough chances to be well within guidelines to be a D1 athlete, but was hard headed and tried to prove a point. Another way to look at it is, YouTube is his job, and you can't tell someone they can't work. I've watched some of his videos, and not one is promoting UCF in any way. Here's a link to his channel and the saying he lost his scholly.
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UCF kicker Donald De La Haye has been ruled ineligible after he refused to give in to the NCAA’s demand for him to stop monetizing his popular YouTube channel.De La Haye, a junior kickoff specialist, has a YouTube channel with over 90,000 subscribers that has amassed nearly five million total views. The NCAA took issue with the fact that the videos bring in advertising revenue and said he was no longer allowed to make money off his athletics-related videos if he wanted to continue playing college football. UCF lobbied the NCAA to allow De La Haye to continue to profit off his channel provided he did not collect any revenue from videos related to athletics. The NCAA approved those conditions but De La Haye declined to move his sports-related videos to a non-monetized account and the school suspended him to avoid a conflict with the NCAA.
I'm torn on this decision by UCF and the NCAA. By all accounts, this kid had enough chances to be well within guidelines to be a D1 athlete, but was hard headed and tried to prove a point. Another way to look at it is, YouTube is his job, and you can't tell someone they can't work. I've watched some of his videos, and not one is promoting UCF in any way. Here's a link to his channel and the saying he lost his scholly.
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:06 am to DuckManiak
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you can't tell someone they can't work
The NCAA does exactly that.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:08 am to DuckManiak
The kid had an out and he didnt take it, this is on him
That being said, frick the ncaa
That being said, frick the ncaa
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:10 am to DuckManiak
We really should just do away with the corrupt and stupid NCAA. It serves no purpose that couldn't be served independently by a governing body of school Presidents or AD's.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:10 am to DuckManiak
He'll make more money with the youtube channel than he wouldve saved with the scholarship.
Also, hes a kicker so its not like he needs a whole lot of in game experience to be good at his position if he really wants to make it to the next level. He may not even want to kick in the NFL
Also, hes a kicker so its not like he needs a whole lot of in game experience to be good at his position if he really wants to make it to the next level. He may not even want to kick in the NFL
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:10 am to Cosmo
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The kid had an out and he didnt take it, this is on him
I agree. If you want to be an athlete, follow the rules. I'm just not sure if the rules are reasonable.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:11 am to DuckManiak
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And there are very specific rules for athletes who want/get jobs that have been around since the dark ages when I was in school. The kids attend a workshop before every semester explaining in detail what and when they can do.
The point missed is the kid CHOSE YouTube fame and fortune over his scholarship.
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ther way to look at it is, YouTube is his job,
And there are very specific rules for athletes who want/get jobs that have been around since the dark ages when I was in school. The kids attend a workshop before every semester explaining in detail what and when they can do.
The point missed is the kid CHOSE YouTube fame and fortune over his scholarship.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:12 am to DuckManiak
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I've watched some of his videos, and not one is promoting UCF in any way.
The NCAA should have no right to take his scholarship then. If this is actually the case, he should sue them.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:15 am to Tiger inTampa
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And there are very specific rules for athletes who want/get jobs that have been around since the dark ages when I was in school.
I just looked this up. It seems that the rules aren't that specific.
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The following rules apply to all types of student-athlete employment (Bylaw 12.4.1): 1. The student-athlete must perform useful work. 2. The rate of pay must be the regular rate paid for such duties. 3. Hours paid must equal actual hours worked. 4. Payment in advance of hours worked is not permitted. 5. Transportation to the job site may be provided only if such transportation is made available to all employees.
I've never been a D1 athlete, so what kinds of things did they discuss at the workshop?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:15 am to RB10
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:15 am to DuckManiak
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YouTube is his job, and you can't tell someone they can't work. I've watched some of his videos, and not one is promoting UCF in any way
NCAA rules prohibit student-athletes to profit off their likeness. I just glanced at his Youtube channel and in 30 seconds I noticed a handful of videos on his channel that were filmed in UCF athletic facilities. He may have been OK had he not been using his status as a UCF football player to film Youtube videos inside athletic facilities and to promote his channel.
That said, I think this case is chicken shite. Its not like he's getting rich off a Youtube channel, or some wealthy booster is giving him a cushy "job" with a big salary and no actual work.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:19 am to RB10
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quote: I've watched some of his videos, and not one is promoting UCF in any way. The NCAA should have no right to take his scholarship then. If this is actually the case, he should sue them.
If you look at his channel, the "sports related" videos are him saying "quarterbacks be like" and does a skit where he throws everything after saying hike. Or, "kickers be like" and using his feet for everything.
I've not watched all the videos, so I'm not sure about his earlier ones, but if that's what "sports related" videos are to the NCAA, I'm at a loss.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:21 am to spaceranger
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He'll make more money with the youtube channel than he wouldve saved with the scholarship.
uhh..you sure?
Tuition
Meal Plan
Books
Housing
That's a lot of coin to bring in on some ad revenue from youtube
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:23 am to RB10
He has quite a few videos that were filmed in UCF football's facilities and video titles that advertise his status as a D-1 football player. Those are the likely reasons he caught the attention of the NCAA and UCF compliance department to begin with.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:23 am to spaceranger
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He'll make more money with the youtube channel than he wouldve saved with the scholarship.
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Considering only AdSense (YouTube advertising), 1 million views might generate between $ 750 to $ 2000 dollars* - it varies a lot throughout the year (and many other factors).
he has about 5 million views
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:25 am to dbeck
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you can't tell someone they can't workquote:
The NCAA does exactly that.
It's crazy what the NCAA gets away with. They are constantly moving the goalposts.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:25 am to WG_Dawg
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That's a lot of coin to bring in on some ad revenue from youtube
There I some group think that YouTube is paying these people lots of money.
That really isn't the case.
There is really no hard set of viewers that earn the "star" money because it is based off of how may clicks their ads get. If you want to support a YouTube person, just click the ads long enough for it to load.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:25 am to DuckManiak
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De La Haye declined to move his sports-related videos to a non-monetized account and the school suspended him
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:28 am to WG_Dawg
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uhh..you sure?
no
UCF is probably expensive as frick, but im doubting they gave the kicker a full scholarship, so its probably still smart
Even if it was a full scholarship, in the long run it could still pay off. He could also be able to get academic scholarships. Those youtubers make absolute bank once they get enough viewers just because theyll watch anything they put out there; insert dude perfect or some of the video game channels. So if he is actually dedicated to his channel (and this might give him some publicity for it) then he could make it work, but if not, then he has some rethinking to do
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:28 am to DuckManiak
What rules the NCAA is so inconsistent that it allows for one player to do this while preventing others. I would sue the NCAA
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