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NASA may have accidentally created a warp field
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:50 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:50 am
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Skipping a few background paragraphs and cutting to the chase:
Holy shite.
Skipping a few background paragraphs and cutting to the chase:
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Which brings us to today’s warp field buzz. Posts on NASASpaceFlight.com, a website devoted to the engineering side of space news, say that NASA has a tool to measure variances in the path-time of light. When lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, it measured significant variances and, more importantly, found that some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. Here’s a comment from a space forum following the tests.
That’s the big surprise. This signature (the interference pattern) on the EmDrive looks just like what a warp bubble looks like. And the math behind the warp bubble apparently matches the interference pattern found in the EmDrive.
Holy shite.
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:57 am to Jim Rockford
Warp 9 engage, Mr. Frodo!
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:58 am to Jim Rockford
Awe yea, I am going to kick my 12 year old self's arse when it opens to the public.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:15 am to LaBornNRaised
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Awe yea, I am going to kick my 23 year old self's arse when it opens to the public.
Fixed.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:25 am to Jim Rockford
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found that some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light
Well that makes my Physics teacher look like an idiot.
Seriously doe, faster than light speed makes time = an imaginary number.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:52 am to THRILLHO
Considering the speed of light is now known to not be a constant. Than that equation is defunct.
Besides even if it were, I still don't know that time is a quantifiable entity in mathematical terms at any speed. Despite our attempts to make it so.
On the "time = imaginary number" statement. No matter how fast we travel, time will still be used when trying to get from point A to point B. Even if you are moving through time, it would still take time for someone to complete the journey through time. Simultaneously, time when going at a walking pace is the same speed as if you were traveling at 100x the normal speed of light.
My thought is that when traveling in a capsule through space either A) it is similar to the inside and outside air forces when riding in a car. Outside the air is traveling at a high velocity whereas inside the car it is still, or B) Time is a constant, we can go as fast as we want but time will still occur, the amount we use of it will simply be less when making a journey. We can never go so fast as to make time arbitrary or non existent. Time is still used, no matter what. Just a matter of how and where.
Besides even if it were, I still don't know that time is a quantifiable entity in mathematical terms at any speed. Despite our attempts to make it so.
On the "time = imaginary number" statement. No matter how fast we travel, time will still be used when trying to get from point A to point B. Even if you are moving through time, it would still take time for someone to complete the journey through time. Simultaneously, time when going at a walking pace is the same speed as if you were traveling at 100x the normal speed of light.
My thought is that when traveling in a capsule through space either A) it is similar to the inside and outside air forces when riding in a car. Outside the air is traveling at a high velocity whereas inside the car it is still, or B) Time is a constant, we can go as fast as we want but time will still occur, the amount we use of it will simply be less when making a journey. We can never go so fast as to make time arbitrary or non existent. Time is still used, no matter what. Just a matter of how and where.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 3:02 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:55 am to VaBamaMan
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Considering the speed of light is now known to not be a constant. Than that equation is defumct.
I'll be sure to write that down on my Physics 3 final in two weeks.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:04 am to THRILLHO
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I'll be sure to write that down on my Physics 3 final in two weeks.
I edited a bit.
But did you not see that report a few months back? They said they found light was slowing down permanently when passing through certain types of particles. Essentially, it seemed to be bending while passing through, and then not being able to regain its speed once free of the obstruction.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:14 am to VaBamaMan
Dunno. I'm not a Physicist. But I was under the impression that the equation that I posted was used to adjust satellite software given that that they move around 8km/s relative to a fixed point on earth. If they weren't properly adjusted, GPS would be buggered within a day or two.
ETA: Yep, c is used in programming GPS and it has worked so far:
LINK
I can understand that it may not be perfect, though, since satellites aren't near 3E8m/s.
ETA: Yep, c is used in programming GPS and it has worked so far:
LINK
I can understand that it may not be perfect, though, since satellites aren't near 3E8m/s.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 3:20 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:26 am to THRILLHO
Light does have a normal speed, so I guess it would work for that.
I am no physicist either, I am a youth pastor.
However, I do try at minimum, to have a basic understanding of as many subjects as I possibly can.
I am no physicist either, I am a youth pastor.
However, I do try at minimum, to have a basic understanding of as many subjects as I possibly can.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:38 am to VaBamaMan
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However, I do try at minimum, to have a basic understanding of as many subjects as I possibly can.
Concepts that disagree with what Einstein discovered go slightly beyond "basic understanding." Props, doe.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:39 am to VaBamaMan
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and then not being able to regain its speed once free of the obstruction
Wait. Really? If this is true, then it would be possible to reintroduce it over and over again until it, theoretically, doesn't move. Giving us our own infinite light source.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:58 am to Jim Rockford
It's going to start a new type of police/military force.
History changers, where people go back in time preventing atrocities.
They can only go back once so they train all their lives and are selected for one crucial mission.
The policy is..they get one shot to change history.
they fail, they fail.
History changers, where people go back in time preventing atrocities.
They can only go back once so they train all their lives and are selected for one crucial mission.
The policy is..they get one shot to change history.
they fail, they fail.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 4:11 am to Jim Rockford
So when are the Vulcans arriving to make first contact?
Posted on 4/25/15 at 4:13 am to THRILLHO
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Einstein
At the rate knowledge is increasing every 2 years, then he was bound to start being wrong at some point.
LINK
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A team of Scottish scientists has made light travel slower than the speed of light.
They sent photons - individual particles of light - through a special mask. It changed the photons' shape - and slowed them to less than light speed.
The photons remained travelling at the lower speed even when they returned to free space.
The experiment is likely to alter how science looks at light.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 4:19 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 5:35 am to SEClint
I watched some show hosted by Stephen Hawking and he cited this as the reason time travel cannot exist.. LINK
edit: after further review, he does believe that time travel is possible in theory. What I saw on that show was him not being able to rectify the grandfather paradox linked above.
edit: after further review, he does believe that time travel is possible in theory. What I saw on that show was him not being able to rectify the grandfather paradox linked above.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 6:21 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 6:03 am to VanCleef
I have my own theory. It's called the coin theory.
There can be two different sides of the same coin, but you can only see the side that is presented to you.
People die everyday, perhaps in time travel..it goes beyound our present expierience and understanding. Actually altering the past..erases reality, thus erasing memories once stored in minds. Instead of growing up with a half brother, in your mind one day, your memories are altered to if you had been an only child, and that's what you think your life was.
Instead of marrying the woman you met randomly one day 20+ years ago and had a family and life with..you're one of those people who never married and are single and lonely late in life. Maybe that is what happened to those who are. Etc.
Hell, sorta like the picture in back to the future but instantaneously, obviously.
There can be two different sides of the same coin, but you can only see the side that is presented to you.
People die everyday, perhaps in time travel..it goes beyound our present expierience and understanding. Actually altering the past..erases reality, thus erasing memories once stored in minds. Instead of growing up with a half brother, in your mind one day, your memories are altered to if you had been an only child, and that's what you think your life was.
Instead of marrying the woman you met randomly one day 20+ years ago and had a family and life with..you're one of those people who never married and are single and lonely late in life. Maybe that is what happened to those who are. Etc.
Hell, sorta like the picture in back to the future but instantaneously, obviously.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 6:52 am to Jim Rockford
It's only a matter of time until the Vulcans show up now.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 7:16 am to VaBamaMan
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air forces when riding in a car. Outside the air is traveling at a high velocity
That is incorrect sir.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 7:25 am to THRILLHO
The Bama guy is pretty close. The speed of light has been proven to be slowing down.
Bama guy... As a youth pastor you should research what implications that could have for the young earth theories.
Bama guy... As a youth pastor you should research what implications that could have for the young earth theories.
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