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re: NASA may have accidentally created a warp field
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:43 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:43 am to Jim Rockford
The beginning of the Farscape project.
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:38 pm to SEClint
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I have my own theory. It's called the coin theory.
There can be two different sides of the same coin, but you can only see the side that is presented to you.
People die everyday, perhaps in time travel..it goes beyound our present expierience and understanding. Actually altering the past..erases reality, thus erasing memories once stored in minds. Instead of growing up with a half brother, in your mind one day, your memories are altered to if you had been an only child, and that's what you think your life was.
Instead of marrying the woman you met randomly one day 20+ years ago and had a family and life with..you're one of those people who never married and are single and lonely late in life. Maybe that is what happened to those who are. Etc.
Hell, sorta like the picture in back to the future but instantaneously, obviously.
There's also the infinitely branching universe theory. Every possible outcome occurs, each time branching off into another universe. In one universe you were never born. In one universe you had pizza for lunch instead of a burger. Etc.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:44 pm to THRILLHO
The time dilation equation (below) is based on the Theory of Relativity, which states that light has a "speed limit".
Also, the speed of light is NOT constant, it is fastest in a vacuum and slows as it enters different mediums (i.e. Earth's atmosphere).
Also, the speed of light is NOT constant, it is fastest in a vacuum and slows as it enters different mediums (i.e. Earth's atmosphere).
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:45 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Then
That is what you pick to be an a-hole about from that post?
Look at the time stamp, I was half dead when I posted that. I was lucky to only misspell one word.
Whatever, carry on.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:47 pm to recruitnik
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That's not what relativity states, so... Good try.
See the post 2 above from gingineer.
Theory of relativity is dependent on the speed of light being a constant.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:49 pm to VaBamaMan
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Theory of relativity is dependent on the speed of light being a constant.
But how our observations change (and the observations of the people watching us) based on the speed at which we move.. isn't. Not really.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:49 pm to Gingineer
Yes, that's for speed in a vacuum. it's really just a product of time and speed. The faster you go, the less time it takes from the perspective of the traveler. If you use up 100% on speed (aka traveling at c), then you have nothing left for time. Therefore a photon traveling at c doesn't experience time. Its journey is instant regardless how long it takes from an outsider's perspective. Once time has slowed to 0, you can't go any faster and that's why c is considered the limit. However, space time (the container we all live in) can expand faster as seen with the Big Bang. That's how I understand it
Edit: spelling
Edit: spelling
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:12 pm to bmy
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But how our observations change (and the observations of the people watching us) based on the speed at which we move.. isn't. Not really.
Let's say a journey is instant.
I am here
Now I am here.
Instantaneous travel would be the equivalent of you being able to read both instances of the word "here" in this post simultaneously. However, over a distance in space I don't believe that is possible because of mass. Creating a warp is a different dynamic than attaining speed. Mass always take time to achieve speed. Even in a vacuum.
I will stand by my statement regarding time being a constant at walking speed and 100x the speed of light.. One simply lessens the amount of said time you use to get to a certain point. Yes, it may reach a point we can't observe it. However if we make the distance we travel farther, then the more time it would take, increasing the amount we observe. So at any speed time used is relevant to distance traveled. Walking across the street uses more time than riding a bike across the street. Instantaneous would only be an illusion. Something will have passed, however immeasurable to humans.
On a different note, I think our current dynamic of achieving speed in a vacuum is short sighted. I think there more capable means already exist of creating speed than our current rocket tech, since there is no drag coefficient in space. At one time I contemplated an aeronautical engineering degree. Kinda wish I had. This stuff is fun to me.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:32 pm to EventHorizon
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The faster you go, the less time it takes from the perspective of the traveler. If you use up 100% on speed (aka traveling at c), then you have nothing left for time. Therefore a photon traveling at c doesn't experience time. Its journey is instant regardless how long it takes from an outsider's perspective.
Yep, but that local perspective is a very narrow perspective relative to extreme distances and extreme distances is exactly problem that must be overcome if humanity is ever to truly explore space and find comparable life on another planet. And assuming the speed of light is a constant, then the only way to span such extreme distances in a reasonable amount of objective observer time is to shorten the distance by somehow folding space/time upon itself. And clearly the human imagination is far more advanced than our technology. I seriously question whether we will have comparable technology envisioned in Star Trek even in another thousand years.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 3:58 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Except Marty (and the others who were 'in' on the secret like Jennifer and Dr. Brown, and Biff in one of the alternate realities) knew the alternate past and had to re-learn the changed timeline.
Once the mission is done, they kill themselves. They know that Knowing what they know,..has become the biggest threat to history preservation. Their whole lives they are taught no other history than what they are supposed to know. Imagine the dangers if someone learned on the side, went into the past and chose to live.
I'm just coming up with a Shitty movie plot in this thread.
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