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re: My Mom has been getting worse with her dementia

Posted on 3/30/24 at 12:03 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 12:03 am to
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When a person get's a terminal illness, I wish doctors will give them a pill with the instructions, when you want to end it, take this (rather than a gunshot).When a person get's a terminal illness, I wish doctors will give them a pill with the instructions, when you want to end it, take this (rather than a gunshot).


Vermont does not have a residency requirement for assisted suicide

Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6750 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 7:28 am to
I will pray for your family. I always hate reading posts like this bc they usually end the same way

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We can’t afford to put her into a nursing home to get the daily care she needs. I have to work and take care of myself so I can’t be there all day long like he is. My sister lives in Alabama.


Your mother had two children of her own, who couldn't take care of themselves when they were young. Someone had to feed you when you couldnt do it yourself. Some had to bathe you when you couldnt do it yourself. Someone had to wipe up your shite diaper when you couldnt do it yourself.

Maybe it is time for you to return the favor and honor thy mother for all she did for you

You know the 5th commandment and all that
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15304 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 7:44 am to
I feel for you. I would consult with someone who offers home health to see your options. Maybe Medicare will cover? One of the smartest things my folks ever did was get long term care insurance. My mom is passed but should my dad have to go into a home he has 250k at his disposal to pay for it.
Posted by Thracken13
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:27 am to
Don't bring that guilt tripping bullshite into this thread DJ3K - unless you are living it or experiencing it 1st hand, you speak from ignorance.

maybe the situation is not that he can and won't, or simply doesn't care - maybe he has his own responsibilities and simply cannot do what he wants to, due to work and family requirements.

Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:41 am to
My mom passed away this morning from dementia. She had it for 10 years. The only positive I can come up with for dementia, is that it gave me time to prepare for her death. I'm thankful that God took her and that she passed peacefully after suffering for awhile. Prays for you, OP. Hang in there.
Posted by Thracken13
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Member since Feb 2010
15925 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:53 am to
my most truthful and sincere condolences to you and your family. my dad is on year 4 or 5, and he is getting worse. you are right, it gives you time to prepare - but it also doesn't truly prepare you. I have an Uncle who also has Dementia, and his is progressing a lot faster than my dad.

I wish you the best in this trying time.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1388 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:12 am to
Tough times. And so common these days. Can you with your sister afford a caregiver during the day or night? Or can your mom and dad? My friends just went through this for about 1 1/2 years. Hired a d day caregiver, then another to take over until bedtime. 2 siblings. One stayed there with the caregiver and on weekends the other left his home stayed Friday through Monday bc he worked. The grandkids rotated in to help. It was tough and drained dad’s account, but he didn’t have to go into a home. He started refusing showers too, so the they’d have someone just bird bathe him. He was delegated hospice so got a weekly nurse and other things from him them. Your dad will need help or it will kill him before she passes.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1388 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:15 am to
My friends signed up for meals on wheels for their dad. Also made him stuff and kept his water cup full so he’d drink and stay hydrated. We played games like cards, colored, janga and built with blocks and built kid puzzles and animal models. His way. Until he couldn’t anymore. Just anything to help him do something. And just talked to him as normal. Sometimes he understood.
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8283 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:47 am to
My heart goes out to you, I've seen it happen, lost several relatives who died with it. But they were in their late 80s lower 90s, that's a long life. I did ask my doctor about this once, he said medicine has advanced to prolong the life of the human body - except the brain. Basically our brain gives out before the rest of our body. Heart and lungs still good, but the brain just isn't functioning as well. The person you know is still in there, but the part of their body that recalls memories and communicates information just isn't functioning well. I stumbled across this video, and think it might be quite helpful. She has a lot of videos out there, maybe it has information beneficial to you.

LINK

It's tough - hang in there man.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:59 am to
I hate hearing about this, I've been through it with multiple elderly family members and it's never easy. The only real option, once it gets so bad they refuse to bathe for weeks, is putting them in some sort of facility.

Right now you may be thinking "she's not there yet". It doesn't matter because she soon will be and it's going to be so bad your stepfather won't be able to handle it on his own, nor with part-time help (and 24-hour care costs more than some facilities).

I've likened it to a bouncing ball. They get bad, they rebound, maintain for a while, get bad again, rebound again, etc. Generally, the level they rebound to is a little less than the previous level. This will continue until they pass.

During this, one issue you can look for (especially in women) is a UTI (urinary tract infection). These get common with elderly women, especially when they aren't cleaning themselves well, and the way it expresses itself is through greater dementia (I've also had one loved one who communicated like she had had a stroke, until the UTI was cleared up).

There may be resources in your area you can access to help to lessen the burden on your family, but eventually she'll need round-the-clock care.

My heart goes out to you and your family.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6402 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 1:13 pm to
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During this, one issue you can look for (especially in women) is a UTI (urinary tract infection).


This is a good thing to remember. Sometimes a very curable condition makes the dementia much worse than it need be. Keep up with their general health too.
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
3730 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:13 pm to
Thanks for the advice. Mom took a shower today and all her medicine. Good day today
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8607 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:31 pm to
After my MIL died of a dementia, my FIL was going down hill. We loaned him a cat to care for. The cat was older and wiser and knew to hit him up for food. Cat gained weight. The cat helped him have something to do.
Then one day he locked her in the spare bedroom and when my SIL visited and freed the yowling cat, he looked at the cat and said, "That looks just like the cat I buried in the back yard." So my sister took the cat home with her and FIL got worse faster.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62741 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:10 pm to
Father had Alzheimers (NOT Alltimers)
Had it for about 4 years before he passed away.
My mother recently passed away, but thankfully never had Alzheimers.
Regarding needing nursing home type care ,it's terribly expensive. I don't know how folks that don't have a Long term health insurance could afford it. Only way to get like Medicaid to pay it, the person has to have no more assets. Medicare doesn't pay for nursing home. Unless it's some type of "rehab".
Posted by Thracken13
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Member since Feb 2010
15925 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:19 pm to
dementia and Alzheimer's scares the shite out of me.

my dad's mom died of Alzhiemers, my dad has dementia and lewey body, my uncle has dementia really bad.

scares me to think i will most likely get it as well.

my uncle has it so bad, my other uncle that lives with him allowed him to drive. he lives in Mobile, and we (myself and my parents) live in Birmingham. we received a call from the State Troopers that he was pulled over 45 minutes north of Birmingham driving onto the interstate going north in the southbound lanes.

he was going to get a prescription from Publix a 1/4 mile from his house. my other Uncle swore nothing was wrong, but we took his car keys and access to back cards as well.

OP i truly wish you all of the luck man.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98152 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Father had Alzheimers (NOT Alltimers)
Had it for about 4 years before he passed away.
My mother recently passed away, but thankfully never had Alzheimers.
Regarding needing nursing home type care ,it's terribly expensive. I don't know how folks that don't have a Long term health insurance could afford it. Only way to get like Medicaid to pay it, the person has to have no more assets. Medicare doesn't pay for nursing home. Unless it's some type of "rehab".




I've posted several times in this thread that it's often possible to preserve at least some assets while still qualifying for medicaid. It's well worth consulting with an elder care lawyer. An initial consultation is usually free and you at least will know where you stand.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98152 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:34 pm to
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I've likened it to a bouncing ball. They get bad, they rebound, maintain for a while, get bad again, rebound again, etc. Generally, the level they rebound to is a little less than the previous level. This will continue until they pass.


When my mother entered the nursing home in December, she willingly went to physical therapy and sometimes participated in social activities. After several health crises including a bout of Sepsis, she sleeps nearly all the time and when she's awake she's frequently delirious. Strangely, during the sleep periods, if you wake her she's pretty lucid before going right back to sleep. But if she's in a wakeful period she's usually in a confused state. There's something called post sepsis syndrome that can last for weeks or months, so maybe she will recover back to her baseline. I hope so.
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
1495 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:58 pm to
Lost my mother to dementia just two weeks ago. It is a horrible disease while you watch helplessly.

She went downhill pretty fast so that is better than lingering for years.

Just prayed for you and yours.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98152 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:03 pm to
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She went downhill pretty fast so that is better than lingering for years.


I go back and forth on this. I hate for her to be in this condition but selfishly I'm not ready to lose her.
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
1495 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:11 pm to
Same here but she wasn't living. Her soul was gone long before her body decided to join her.
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