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re: my baby girl was diagnosed with pre-diabetes
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:47 am to Geauxrilla Ballz
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:47 am to Geauxrilla Ballz
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The day needs to come quickly when the FDA actually protects us from ourselves
says the pure socialist/communist/collectivist
who thinks gov't should "fix" everything for us
you NEVER KNEW the Republic, did you?! your words betray you
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:58 am to lsunurse
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I am seeing more and more kids with type 2 diabetes at work, makes me really just sad for them. Usually their parents also have type 2 and the whole family is just generally fat. Makes me sad for the children and just angry at the parents.
in the 80s there were only a handful of cases of type 2 in children, and now there is something like 20k kids wit type 2 diabetes. Shoot just from 2000, it is up like 50-60%.
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With children and weight gain, that certainly is a factor. Think of many of us who were kids in the 80s. We may not have eaten the greatest diets ourselves(my parents biggest complaint about us drinking sodas was if we opened a new can before finishing another one we sat down somewhere in the house, not the fact that we were drinking them
Im not saying its not a factor, i didnt mean for it to come off like that. but that it is much easier controlled with diet. If the kid is sitting around but eating somewhat healthy, he/she isnt getting diabetes. Even somewhat active kids with bad eating habits are getting diabetes these days.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:05 pm to Lester Earl
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but that it is much easier controlled with diet.
I agree as well. For some of these kids, changing their diet will be easier than being more active. Some of the kids I care for come from some pretty rough neighborhoods so they don't have as many options to be active after school. It literally may not be safe for them to play outside so they stay in their homes playing video games or watching tv after school.
I also think some families don't realize that type 2 diabetes is still a serious thing that shouldn't be swept under the rug as "no big deal". They see that you don't have to get insulin injections and just take pills for it so they minimize the seriousness of the condition because of that.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:12 pm to lsunurse
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and just take pills for it
Pills, without exercise, is just delaying the inevitable onset of type 1. NONE of them work long term.
Interesting fact one of my docs told me last week...Fish in Lake Michigan have detectable concentrations of Metformin in their blood b/c there are so many diabetics in Michigan.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:23 pm to oldcharlie8
Reduce sugar and starch intake. Particularly sweetened beverages.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:43 pm to oldcharlie8
Just diagnosed with t2, no rice sugar or white bread im 65, control her carb intake, pre diabetes can turn into type 2 a very serious condition diet and excersise is the key. Check out ADA forum a wealth of info.
Get used to reading food labels.
best of luck, my goal is to get of insulin
Get used to reading food labels.
best of luck, my goal is to get of insulin
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:11 pm to oldcharlie8
Try dance or horseback riding... Both super girlie :)
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:12 pm to MSMHater
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nteresting fact one of my docs told me last week...Fish in Lake Michigan have detectable concentrations of Metformin in their blood b/c there are so many diabetics in Michigan.
That's crazy
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:11 pm to retired trucker
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quote: The day needs to come quickly when the FDA actually protects us from ourselves says the pure socialist/communist/collectivist who thinks gov't should "fix" everything for us you NEVER KNEW the Republic, did you?! your words betray you.
My words betray me? Call me whatever you want - I think taxing cigarettes is a brilliant idea, since we pay so much for the healthcare of the uninsured and many illness are caused by smoking.
If you want to smoke, pay the taxes. It's fair.
If you want to eat shitty foods that destroy your health, which we all do - tax the hell out of businesses that make billions of dollars putting out processed foods that are not good enough to feed a dog.
I call that a government extracting money from the source of the problem. Do you have any idea how much we pay for things we can prevent?
All I am saying is tax the McDonalds, Wendy's, etc to help pay for the uninsured victims of their foods (which I will hypocritically eat, at times).
Makes sense to me.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:16 pm to Geauxrilla Ballz
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If you want to eat shitty foods that destroy your health, which we all do - tax the hell out of businesses that make billions of dollars putting out processed foods
Wrong. Tax the customer, not the business. The business is just providing a service demanded by the people.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:22 pm to ClientNumber9
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Wrong. Tax the customer, not the business. The business is just providing a service demanded by the people.
How is it wrong?
If the FDA/Government were to hold food service providers to a standard, and tax them if they fell below that standard - I'm sure the consumer would in some way absorb that increase. It would discourage cutting corners to provide substandard foods, and the world would be a better place.
Did you know that from 2007 to 2012, the total cost of diagnosed Diabetes rose from about $175 BILLION to almost $250 BILLION (that's over a 40% increase over just FIVE years!). Those figures are already about 3 years old, so imagine what it is now.
What pays the medical bills? A big portion is MEDICARE (taken out of our paychecks every pay period!). How much money do we have in Medicare? This cost is rising at an alarming rate, and what are we doing about it? What happens when Medicare runs out of money, or is forced to cut programs like Home Health Care (which baby boomers are now depending on!).
Something has to be done, or we are going to see our country really start suffering. I am a Republican - but we can't blame Obama for this.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:31 pm to Geauxrilla Ballz
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If the FDA/Government were to hold food service providers to a standard
They do. Ever been to Mexico or Bangladesh or the Congo and see what they're selling in their restaurants/street markets/grocery stores? Like McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King or not (and I don't) they generally sell safe, disease-free food to a consumer base that wants them. You call it substandard food but it does provide nutrition. How is it McDonald's fault if their customers eat three combo meals a day there and don't exercise?
Look, I haven't been in a fast food restaurant in almost four years but if the government gets into the "sin taxing" business on unhealthy foods, they should do as they do for every other alcohol, cigarette, soda tax- put it on the consumer.
ETA: In your same post, you wrote:
quote:So you want the consumer to pay the taxes for cigarettes but when it comes to fast food, you want corporations to pay for it instead of the consumer?
If you want to smoke, pay the taxes. It's fair.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:38 pm to Geauxrilla Ballz
I see your chart but the bigger issue at hand is portion control and sedentary lifestyle. You don't think people ate buttered popcorn in the 1950s? Or McDonald's cheeseburgers for the past 50 years? Or breakfasts with bacon, sausage AND biscuits and gravy? The reason why people are gaining so much weight (and giving themselves diabetes) is because they're not eating a cup of popcorn or a cheeseburger. They're eating a bucket of popcorn and 3-5 cheeseburgers a day. How can you tax that unless you go after the consumer?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:38 pm to ClientNumber9
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They do. Ever been to Mexico or Bangladesh or the Congo and see what they're selling in their restaurants/street markets/grocery stores? Like McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King or not (and I don't) they generally sell safe, disease-free food to a consumer base that wants them. You call it substandard food but it does provide nutrition. How is it McDonald's fault if their customers eat three combo meals a day there and don't exercise? Look, I haven't been in a fast food restaurant in almost four years but if the government gets into the "sin taxing" business on unhealthy foods, they should do as they do for every other alcohol, cigarette, soda tax- put it on the consumer. ETA: In your same post, you wrote:
In no way am I saying that the blame for shitty health falls on anything other than personal decisions and lack of knowledge. It's like the whole gun debate. A spoon doesn't make you fat.
YET, if fast food companies are still turning out garbage food that is known to be a health risk - tax them. It will raise the price of foods and eventually result in perhaps people choosing other options for dinner.
Go to Massachusetts and drive around looking for a fast food joint. Difficult to find. One of the most educated States. Here in Louisiana - garbage food every where. We are one of the most unhealthy states, and I'd venture to say one of the least educated.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:42 pm to ClientNumber9
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I see your chart but the bigger issue at hand is portion control and sedentary lifestyle. You don't think people ate buttered popcorn in the 1950s? Or McDonald's cheeseburgers for the past 50 years? Or breakfasts with bacon, sausage AND biscuits and gravy? The reason why people are gaining so much weight (and giving themselves diabetes) is because they're not eating a cup of popcorn or a cheeseburger. They're eating a bucket of popcorn and 3-5 cheeseburgers a day. How can you tax that unless you go after the consumer?
Right - I agree completely. A persons health is based on genetics and largely their habits. They have to change their habits. NO ONE needs a soft drink with 75 grams of sugar per serving. Essentially, that is poison, and I don't think it should be so readily available.
Call is communism, but I think that we have to really work on this.
Portion control is a HUGE problem, I agree. Maybe the biggest.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:47 pm to Geauxrilla Ballz
We're talking past each other. Yes, fast food is a killer. But merely taxing the corporation that makes it is wrong.
Some McDonald's customers purchase salads and grilled chicken wraps and choose apple slices instead of French fries. And some McDonald's customers eat 5 Big Macs a day. Why tax both customers at the same rate?
I agree that poverty, bad education and obesity all go together. But targeting the customer with the tax is a much more efficient means to "punish" the offender.
Case in point: I live in Washington state. We recently allowed alcohol to be sold in private stores. Yet, the government taxes booze at an ungodly 20%. So if Costco now sells booze, should the government be taxing Costco as a corporation, or the individual Costco customer who is not purchasing booze at all?
ETA: I'm pretty sure we agree on pretty much 95% of this- that a "sin" tax on unhealthy food should be collected.
Some McDonald's customers purchase salads and grilled chicken wraps and choose apple slices instead of French fries. And some McDonald's customers eat 5 Big Macs a day. Why tax both customers at the same rate?
I agree that poverty, bad education and obesity all go together. But targeting the customer with the tax is a much more efficient means to "punish" the offender.
Case in point: I live in Washington state. We recently allowed alcohol to be sold in private stores. Yet, the government taxes booze at an ungodly 20%. So if Costco now sells booze, should the government be taxing Costco as a corporation, or the individual Costco customer who is not purchasing booze at all?
ETA: I'm pretty sure we agree on pretty much 95% of this- that a "sin" tax on unhealthy food should be collected.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:34 pm to ClientNumber9
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Some McDonald's customers purchase salads and grilled chicken wraps and choose apple slices instead of French fries. And some McDonald's customers eat 5 Big Macs a day. Why tax both customers at the same rate? I agree that poverty, bad education and obesity all go together. But targeting the customer with the tax is a much more efficient means to "punish" the offender.
Well, in a free enterprise market, are we really punishing the consumer if the business has to raise prices (when taxed according the nutrition levels of their food)? Yes they will have to raise prices to keep their profit margin, but enough of a price hike and people take their business elsewhere. Healthier food becomes the cheaper option and the market is flipped. Bottom line: less garbage food!
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I'm pretty sure we agree on pretty much 95% of this- that a "sin" tax on unhealthy food should be collected.
I think so.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:59 pm to oldcharlie8
What is she, about 200?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:04 pm to LSUGrrrl
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My son has this body type.
Little late to this: There is no such thing as a 'body type'!!
'Husky', 'Big Boned', "Broad Shouldered' blah... blah... It's all bull-shite!!
Calculate your BMI: if your BMI indicate that you're overweight or that you are obese... you are overweight or obese!! Simple plain truth!!
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