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re: Mother And Son Charged With Incest
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:02 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:02 pm to ShortyRob
For giggles.
Explain the mechanics of this "encourages" thing.
If the state doesn't arrest ADULTS engaged in incest, it "encourages" child incest.
How does this work exactly. Give me a hypothetical.
Explain the mechanics of this "encourages" thing.
If the state doesn't arrest ADULTS engaged in incest, it "encourages" child incest.
How does this work exactly. Give me a hypothetical.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:12 pm to ShortyRob
would you publicly tell your friends, parents, kids, etc that you support the legalization of incest?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:18 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
would you publicly tell your friends, parents, kids, etc that you support the legalization of incest?
I have actually had this discussion.
Everyone knows I'm a limited government guy who doesn't believe the state needs to be our nanny.
So, your turn. Explain how this "encourages" thing works.
Your turn.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:21 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, pull the ripcord and abandon this shitstain argument. One idiot is putting words in your mouth and then bashing you over them, and the other idiot needs to consult their psychiatrist to see if they are "ready" to start a thread about their shitty father that obviously loved them some barley soup. Just bail son.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:21 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Everyone knows I'm a limited government guy who doesn't believe the state needs to be our nanny.
ok, so that explain the blanket statements.
so with that being your general thought process, does every little thing fall under that umbrella? Or are your opinions formed on a case by case basis?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:26 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I've made none.
ok, so that explain the blanket statements.
Sorry you don't like that your "encourages" logic makes no sense if it only applies to one thing.
quote:What do you mean?
Or are your opinions formed on a case by case basis?
I don't support the state policing up the personal actions of adults unless those actions have the effect of harming another adult.
This isn't complicated man.
It sure beats taking the position that the state can police up the personal actions of adults if enough of us say so.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:27 pm to ShortyRob
You still haven't answered.
How does this "encouraging" work exactly?
It should be reasonably easy for you to explain given that you are so certain of it.
How does this "encouraging" work exactly?
It should be reasonably easy for you to explain given that you are so certain of it.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:28 pm to mulletproof
quote:He said that legalizing it encourages it. I'm sorry he doesn't like the implications of that obtuse position.
, pull the ripcord and abandon this shitstain argument. One idiot is putting words in your mouth and then bashing you over them
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:29 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
How does this "encouraging" work exactly?
Anything that becomes more socially acceptable can be viewed as encouraged. "Go ahead, who are we to judge? They are feelings you can't control" ect
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:30 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:Being legal =/= socially acceptable.
Anything that becomes more socially acceptable can be viewed as encouraged
Hell, being gay used to be ILLEGAL and became more socially acceptable WHILE IT WAS STILL ILLEGAL!
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Also, gay people think incest is disgusting as well. So if the very people you don't want to get a civil document for tax breaks think its despicable, who is going to make it socially acceptable?
The passage of gay marriage means you can no longer ban any sort of coupling based on it being "disgusting".
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:47 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
How does this "encouraging" work exactly?
sick adults preying on children, whether legally or illegally within the law, with intent to to seduce them once they are of age, if they even wait that long. I see the potential for the adult to abuse their power more, brainwash children, potentially sexually abuse them.
I mean are we really going to act like all of a sudden 2 adult relatives decide to just frick one another? Like it doesnt stem from the parent's influence during the child's upbringing? Its not like 2 singles meeting up at a bar and going home to frick. Its not like it is 2 people in a clear state of mind going to bed to have sex.
Maybe it wouldnt be a widespread problem, but it certainly would happen. shite, it already happens. Why even chance it? But naw, you're mad a big government, so hey, FREEDOM!!!!!111
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:48 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Even though it encourages ALL that stuff I pointed out?
Yes it absolutely should
Seems contradictory to your premise.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:52 pm to shel311
quote:
Even though it encourages ALL that stuff I pointed out?
i grew up in a big italian family that allowed a glass of wine at age of 16 or so. I know that not all people that drink alcohol are alcoholics. I read the beer thread on the food board and know that there are a large volume of people that drink alcohol without abusing it.
I also know that all parents that frick their kids are fricked up in the head.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:52 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
sick adults preying on children, whether legally or illegally within the law, with intent to to seduce them once they are of age, if they even wait that long. I see the potential for the adult to abuse their power more, brainwash children, potentially sexually abuse them.
So why does this effect only work in the case of incest? Why, for other socially unacceptable but legal things, does the lack of a law have no encouraging effect?
quote:You keep saying this as if you have some evidence that 100% of all adult incest situations started as children. Do you have such evidence?
I mean are we really going to act like all of a sudden 2 adult relatives decide to just frick one another?
quote:Why even chance it? THAT is your criteria for engaging state power against adults? Well yeah. We won't agree on that stupid shite.
Maybe it wouldnt be a widespread problem, but it certainly would happen. shite, it already happens. Why even chance it?
quote:Mad? Why does believing in adult freedom equal being "mad"?
But naw, you're mad a big government, so hey, FREEDOM!!!!!111
That's just weird.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:53 pm to mulletproof
quote:I didn't have a father to be shitty, but other than that, nailed it!!
and the other idiot needs to consult their psychiatrist to see if they are "ready" to start a thread about their shitty father that obviously loved them some barley soup. Just bail son.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:53 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Well of course they are.
also know that all parents that frick their kids are fricked up in the head.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:59 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I mentioned something that no one would disagree. Granted, you didn't disagree but you asked for proven research, which I gave you very quickly.
I mean are we really going to act like all of a sudden 2 adult relatives decide to just frick one another?
I asked you to do the same, and you didn't, while continuing to state your opinion.
Any reason why you'd ask for me to provide data while not planning to back up any of your opinions with data?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:59 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
So why does this effect only work in the case of incest? Why, for other socially unacceptable but legal things, does the lack of a law have no encouraging effect?
IDK, who says it only works in the case of incest?
quote:
You keep saying this as if you have some evidence that 100% of all adult incest situations started as children. Do you have such evidence?
I said 100%? can you link that?
quote:
Why even chance it? THAT is your criteria for engaging state power against adults? Well yeah. We won't agree on that stupid shite.
oh look, another blanket statement. Yes, cause every law is the same and i think the same thing regarding every law!!!!11 rah rah rah blah blah blah!!!!
quote:
Mad? Why does believing in adult freedom equal being "mad"?
no, you support incest, you sick frick
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:00 pm to shel311
quote:
I asked you to do the same, and you didn't, while continuing to state your opinion.
what do you want data on? i must have missed it
not like it will change your opinion. You're too focused on winning an argument on the internet
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 1:01 pm
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