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re: Mother And Son Charged With Incest
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:04 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:04 am to ShortyRob
quote:
You said the state not making something illegal ENCOURAGES the thing.
yes, regarding incest and the hovering cloud of child abuse
Parent: "oh boy i cant wait until Billy Joe is 18 so I can start frickin' him legally!".
Not anal sex, or swinging, or blowjobs.
carry on with your blanket assumptions.
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:05 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Giving the facts that we know a large percent of child abuse is unreported, and that fact that most incestous relationships are initiated by parents,
Is that MOST are initiated by parents? I thought it was more uncles, aunts, grandparents, cousins.
Anybody can find the specific data?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:07 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Correct. Consenting adults doing whatever it is that they want to do has exactly ZERO effect on me.
so child abuse doesnt have any affect on you either.
*isnt that how this works?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:07 am to Lester Earl
quote:Yet you say that all of the other things you dislike but don't support making illegal are NOT "encouraged".
yes, regarding incest and the hovering cloud of child abuse
Your logic is pretty flawed. Just sayin..
quote:You are the one who said if the state doesn't make something illegal, it's ENCOURAGING it.
Not anal sex, or swinging, or blowjobs. carry on with your blanket assumptions.
But then, you backtrack. Apparently, this genius logic of yours only applies sometimes.
Your logic is busted.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:07 am to Lester Earl
quote:Right, and you're insinuating it's done as a child, and your reasoning is "just cause"
You missed my point. The point is there has to be some buttering up phase, whether it starts as a child or young adult.
quote:Do you think children want alcoholic fathers who ruin their family?
Do you think kids want to become incestous with the parents without their parent's guidance? I think the majority of them do not.
quote:I think many kids overcome child molestation at the hands of their parents as well and go on to lead successful, non-child molesting lives. So...
do I think many kids overcome their parent(s) being alcoholics & go on to lead successful, drug free lives? yea, I think so. I know a bunch
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:08 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Is that MOST are initiated by parents? I thought it was more uncles, aunts, grandparents, cousins.
call it what your will. Relatives in a position of power. This story just happened to be about mom and son.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:08 am to Lester Earl
quote:
so child abuse doesnt have any affect on you either. *isnt that how this works?
Correct. But, I support defending CHILDREN.
If some adult wants to frick his mom, I get to just point and laugh.
You're not very good at this, are you.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:09 am to ShortyRob
quote:
You are the one who said if the state doesn't make something illegal, it's ENCOURAGING it.
you're funnyPosted on 9/14/16 at 11:10 am to Lester Earl
quote:
you're funny
Well, ya did say it.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:10 am to ShortyRob
quote:Woo, that's a strong to quite strong retort.
Nice try. You said the state not making something illegal ENCOURAGES the thing. Well. Does it or not?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:12 am to shel311
quote:
Right, and you're insinuating it's done as a child, and your reasoning is "just cause"
do you think that my statement is illogical?
quote:
Do you think children want alcoholic fathers who ruin their family?
given the choice, no.
quote:
I think many kids overcome child molestation at the hands of their parents as well and go on to lead successful, non-child molesting lives. So...
yea, the ones that don't commit suicide or end up incarcerated
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:12 am to shel311
would be strong if I had actually said that
oh well, was a good discussion before the grasping of straws started
oh well, was a good discussion before the grasping of straws started
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:13 am to Lester Earl
quote:Oh boy, it's gotten bad, real bad for your argument.
so child abuse doesnt have any affect on you either. *isnt that how this works?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:14 am to Lester Earl
quote:You did.
would be strong if I had actually said that
Of course, now you're wanting to say that only in the case of incest does the state not making something illegal "encourage" that thing.
But that's fricking illogical.
This whole, "it's encouraging it if it's legal" logic can't be fricking selective you obtuse idiot.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:15 am to Lester Earl
quote:Same goes for kids of alcoholic parents, you don't realize that?
yea, the ones that don't commit suicide or end up incarcerated
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:16 am to Lester Earl
quote:
so child abuse doesnt have any affect on you either.
Bad argument. Again, we are talking about ADULTS. As for your statement, murder has never had an effect on my life...
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:18 am to shel311
quote:The state not passing a law making excessive drinking by parents a jailable offense is clearly encouraging it.
Same goes for kids of alcoholic parents, you don't realize that?
The state should be ashamed of itself.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:19 am to i am dan
quote:I like how LE replied with that while in the same post quoting a statement re: "consenting adults", and still thinking he was boxing someone in.
so child abuse doesnt have any affect on you either.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:19 am to ShortyRob
quote:
This whole, "it's encouraging it if it's legal" logic can't be fricking selective you obtuse idiot.
ShortyBob: triggered.
But let's look over why exactly you have become triggered.
I said that I think legalizing incest could encourage child abuse. Now this apparently means that I think any crime that Shory Bob can come up with will encourage another illegal act should it become legal. Im not going to sit here and call you names, but lol at you for coming up with that conclusion.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:21 am to Lester Earl
quote:No. You said it encouraged incest.
I said that I think legalizing incest could encourage child abuse.
Nice try.
quote:If you are correct that the lack of a law on incest equals encouraging it, then a lack of a law on anything is encouraging it.
Now this apparently means that I think any crime that Shory Bob can come up with will encourage another illegal act should it become legal
It's not my fault you came up with shite logic.
If you'd like to backtrack on the encouraging line, I'll let you.
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