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re: Missing Florida boys' boat found capsized
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:34 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:34 pm to Captain Rumbeard
They found out everything there was to know about what happened from the diver that they need to know.
Honestly, they don't give a shite about the boat at this point.
I heard an interview from the Coast Guard spokesman. They asked him a question that I wanted answered. How many life vests were on the boat? He said we don't have any answers for that question at this time.
Less than a minute later, he stated that one life vest is missing from the boat.
How do you suppose they deduced that when they don't know how many life vests were on the boat to begin with? Lol
A boat captain saw them leave the marina after fueling up, heading into rough seas not wearing their vests. They're doing their due diligence, but they've got this one figured out already.
Honestly, they don't give a shite about the boat at this point.
I heard an interview from the Coast Guard spokesman. They asked him a question that I wanted answered. How many life vests were on the boat? He said we don't have any answers for that question at this time.
Less than a minute later, he stated that one life vest is missing from the boat.
How do you suppose they deduced that when they don't know how many life vests were on the boat to begin with? Lol
A boat captain saw them leave the marina after fueling up, heading into rough seas not wearing their vests. They're doing their due diligence, but they've got this one figured out already.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:40 pm to fr33manator
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14 year old boys are gonna find adventures to get into. Danger is exhilarating.
I feel sorry for some of you who never knew a little danger and had helicopter parents.
Did mommy need to hold your wittle weenie when you made pee pee too?
I mean, it sucks for the parents and the boys, but danger is everywhere. You can't blame this one on parenting.
Are you serious?
I don't think you understand what a monster the oceans on Earth are. Sure, danger is everywhere but it can and should be avoided at all costs and these stupid parents did no such thing with their sons. They would have to be 18 for me to have no control over them going out there.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:45 pm to Sentrius
I was talking about them taking the boat out on their own. Not going into the fricking ocean.
No clue why people are jumping that conclusion.
The parents clearly said they weren't supposed to go where they did
No clue why people are jumping that conclusion.
The parents clearly said they weren't supposed to go where they did
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:55 pm to fr33manator
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I was talking about them taking the boat out on their own.
That's fine but part of taking a risk as a parent is making sure you have a safety net and kids do their stuff in an environment that can be easily controlled; like say a medium sized lake with no outlet.
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The parents clearly said they weren't supposed to go where they did
Kids lied and/or betrayed a trust? I'm so shocked.
Kids are not to be trusted in an environment that cannot be easily controlled.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:57 pm to fr33manator
The parents are full of shite.
They're probably a combination of ignorant and complacent.
The marina owner stated that the kids came in probably twice a week all summer long and were headed offshore to fish, like usual.
I don't need or care if the parents are held accountable.
I know they have already paid the ultimate price.
They're probably a combination of ignorant and complacent.
The marina owner stated that the kids came in probably twice a week all summer long and were headed offshore to fish, like usual.
I don't need or care if the parents are held accountable.
I know they have already paid the ultimate price.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:35 am to wahoocs
This story is blowning up my news feed down here in Palm beach. Them boys goners
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:44 am to Captain Rumbeard
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5 to 1 scope would require 12,000 feet of anchor line.
I take it you think the average CG cutter carries that for situations like this?
Even if they had it the boat would have sunk with 2 miles of rope + rode hanging off the front.
arent online badasses fun
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:00 am to wahoocs
They found out everything there was to know about what happened from the diver that they need to know.
Honestly, they don't give a shite about the boat at this point.
I heard an interview from the Coast Guard spokesman. They asked him a question that I wanted answered. How many life vests were on the boat? He said we don't have any answers for that question at this time.
Less than a minute later, he stated that one life vest is missing from the boat.
How do you suppose they deduced that when they don't know how many life vests were on the boat to begin with? Lol
A boat captain saw them leave the marina after fueling up, heading into rough seas not wearing their vests. They're doing their due diligence, but they've got this one figured out already.
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Maybe you think you've "got this one figured out already", but I doubt the CG has jumped to any premature conclusions. If the boys weren't wearing PFDs when they left the marina, does that exclude the possibility that they put they on when the weather started getting foul? How does the Coast Guard know that one PFD is missing? I don't even know how many I have, and I'm positive the Coast Guard doesn't.
Honestly, they don't give a shite about the boat at this point.
I heard an interview from the Coast Guard spokesman. They asked him a question that I wanted answered. How many life vests were on the boat? He said we don't have any answers for that question at this time.
Less than a minute later, he stated that one life vest is missing from the boat.
How do you suppose they deduced that when they don't know how many life vests were on the boat to begin with? Lol
A boat captain saw them leave the marina after fueling up, heading into rough seas not wearing their vests. They're doing their due diligence, but they've got this one figured out already.
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Maybe you think you've "got this one figured out already", but I doubt the CG has jumped to any premature conclusions. If the boys weren't wearing PFDs when they left the marina, does that exclude the possibility that they put they on when the weather started getting foul? How does the Coast Guard know that one PFD is missing? I don't even know how many I have, and I'm positive the Coast Guard doesn't.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:02 am to C
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Our kids are not meant to be treated like fragile egg shells. Let them live.
Yeah and when you give them too much freedom, this kind of shite is more likely to happen.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:32 am to Bloodworth
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What's crazy is that this all apparently happened during the day and they got separated from boat somehow. The footage from coastguard shows capsized boat floating with most of hull above water and no damage to hull. Why/how did they get separated from the boat?
Waves and current, I have jumped of the back of a dive boat and been immediately swept away quite a distance, even with dive fins it would have been very tough to swim back to the boat. If there are only two people in a boat and they both go in the water unless there is a trailing line of some sort for them to get a hold on they are pretty much done.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:08 am to EA6B
anytime you are in the water in any circumstance, you have to be on your guard. I was in a fricking lake one time and things seemed pretty calm when we set out. and the boat next to us took on water and sank with 4 people diving out. Luckily there were other boats near by. They wanted to get in our boat and that would have capsized us so we told them no.
i saw a documentary recently about a race across the Atlantic. Professional racers. Near the end of the race, two of the boats hit a swell. One of the boats was damaged enough it dropped out of the race and on one of the boats, one guy seriously hurt his shoulder and one had a confusion I believe.
The parenting versus personal responsibility argument is an interesting one. All I'll say is a see grown arse middle aged men every day who should know better most of them are intelligent and hardworking. But you never really know how you'll react until the shite hits the fan and I'm guessing these boys had never really been in a situation where they could be expected to react to a disaster.
Very sad story.
i saw a documentary recently about a race across the Atlantic. Professional racers. Near the end of the race, two of the boats hit a swell. One of the boats was damaged enough it dropped out of the race and on one of the boats, one guy seriously hurt his shoulder and one had a confusion I believe.
The parenting versus personal responsibility argument is an interesting one. All I'll say is a see grown arse middle aged men every day who should know better most of them are intelligent and hardworking. But you never really know how you'll react until the shite hits the fan and I'm guessing these boys had never really been in a situation where they could be expected to react to a disaster.
Very sad story.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:16 am to weagle99
Quote from mother:
Being stranded in the sea isn't something he is new at doing?!?
quote:
This isn't something that he's new at," said Carly Black, the mother of Austin Stephanos, in an interview with television station WPBF. "I think they feel better on the boat than they do on land." The mother said she wouldn't even "bat an eye" about the boys' ability to survive at sea.
Being stranded in the sea isn't something he is new at doing?!?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:48 am to weagle99
These parents sure raise themselves some good ole strong boys
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 6:53 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:58 am to GCTiger11
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These parents sure raise themselves some good ole strong boys
This could have happened to an adult too.
Marquise Hill was a strong powerful man and he died on lake Ponchartrain.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:05 am to GCTiger11
I loved reading this thread. It's full of "probablys, definitelys, likelys and I bets".
With so many smart posters here, maybe some of you should contact the CG. They are out there searching for answers, who knew all they would have to do to find them is read the OT.
The only thing we know is two fisherman are lost at sea. From all reports, they seem to be capable of running a boat. You don't have to be an adult for the sea to take your life.
I really just feel sorry for the families.
With so many smart posters here, maybe some of you should contact the CG. They are out there searching for answers, who knew all they would have to do to find them is read the OT.
The only thing we know is two fisherman are lost at sea. From all reports, they seem to be capable of running a boat. You don't have to be an adult for the sea to take your life.
I really just feel sorry for the families.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 7:11 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:13 am to DownSouthDave
So, do you all think they ever find the bodies?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:19 am to DownSouthDave
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With so many smart posters here, maybe some of you should contact the CG. They are out there searching for answers, who knew all they would have to do to find them is read the OT.
The only thing we know is two fisherman are lost at sea. From all reports, they seem to be capable of running a boat. You don't have to be an adult for the sea to take your life.
I really just feel sorry for the families.
you forgot how many parents of the year there are as well whose kids never do something they aren't suppose to
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:21 am to Sentrius
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Sure, danger is everywhere but it can and should be avoided at all costs
I hope I never get old and boring enough to take that attitude.
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