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re: McKayla Maroney - #MeToo
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:46 am to Boudreaux35
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:46 am to Boudreaux35
quote:Doesnt sound vague or abstract. She was very specific of who, when, and where. I agree some of these claims are bullshite, some are exaggerated, but some are certainly true.
I don't see much "revealing" other than making this vague abstract claim.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:46 am to wallowinit
quote:So you are assuming that she is using a sexual assault to gain more instagram followers?
I'm not saying nothing happened but she seems to be working very hard to stay relevant and in the spotlight.
Airtight logic dude.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:47 am to Boudreaux35
quote:
ou wanna make a claim, then back it up!
Slander? Libel? Any lawyers help me out on the correct term?
I guess people could share their story without giving names. For this to really get attention you’d need stories. I’d need to know that my buddies wife had something happen to her when she was 22? Or whoever. That will resonate more with people.
Without some context some guys are gonna just think “oh god. A guy at work asked me out for coffee and later a drink after work over a 6 month period. The horror!”
ETA. Had a woman in the hospital say “that’s sexual harassment” because he farted. He farted out loud right at the spot he knew I was heading to. So I could sit in his filth. It’s the fart game. He didn’t see her coming. He even apologized.
That behavior is something. But not sexual harassment.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:49 am to Splackavellie
Yeah, that's the little skank attention ho that would run up to a teammate and hug them knowing the camera was on them. You could tell it was fake and a way to get on camera.
Story doesn't compute. Sleeping pill, 13 he flight to Tokyo, and doesn't remember anything until getting treatment? LOL what of she asked for treatment and doesn't remember? What of she went knock on his door and asked for treatment and doesn't remember?
Who knows? But she is starved for attention after the lights have gone out in her stardom.
Story doesn't compute. Sleeping pill, 13 he flight to Tokyo, and doesn't remember anything until getting treatment? LOL what of she asked for treatment and doesn't remember? What of she went knock on his door and asked for treatment and doesn't remember?
Who knows? But she is starved for attention after the lights have gone out in her stardom.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:49 am to JBeam
quote:
Again, it's not really rare that victims don't want to identify the person. Ii'm assuming people want Lawrence & Witherspoon to give names because of their social status. But I think that completely comes down to whether or not a individual wants to open that situation up again.
you are absolutely correct, and I am here to tell you that's moronic. No good can come of that. I realize we're talking about incidents that happened years ago, but especially in today's climate where by and large all women are taken at their word because of the "shear courage" it takes to come out with their stories.
Sexual assault by a woman towards a man which does happen is one thing I can understand not wanting to bring up, but women just reinforce negative stereotypes about themselves when they wait 10+ years to make accusations of sexual assault if ever at all.
It's especially prevalent in situations where all these women from Hollywood now come out and basically say, "Yeah, I got sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein, but I really wanted to be a movie star so I went with it." Now that they're famous, they're all coming. No doubt the guy's scum, but c'mon, they're basically saying they performed sexual favors to better their career.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:50 am to the LSUSaint
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:54 am to the LSUSaint
quote:
the LSUSaint
Way to be part of the problem. Her story is most likely credible. The guy has atleast hundred other accusers out there and is a convicted child porn pedophile
quote:
13 he flight to Tokyo, and doesn't remember anything until getting treatment? LOL
You ever done drugs, been blackout drunk, or been roofied?
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:54 am to JBeam
quote:Oh I agree. The point I'm making is that when you read a story that's as general as "I was sexually abused in high school," that person is either looking for the attention, or possible hasn't reached a place where she feels she can come out and say what happened. The stories with specifics are coming from those who are finally ready and found the courage. I find those more believable and I'm more likely to empathize. Especially with the celebrities who, IMO, are part of the problem when they don't out these "powerful" men allowing them to continue their behavior for the next batch of young actresses. If anything, now may be the only time to get the names out while the general public and industry has their back. And they're big enough names to do it. Reese is her own producer now. She can employ herself.
I don't think ignoring the incident helps anything. But we all react to traumatic events differently. So I tend to not pass judgement on people who are still trying to piece things together after something like this happens (With that being said, I believe everyone should go to the authorities as soon as possible when an assualt takes place)
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:55 am to BulldogXero
I don't tend to think of this as just a "Hollywood Problem". We as a culture tend to avoid having conversations about sexual assault on multiple levels (The entire Baylor University situation under Art Briles comes to mind). The era of the internet and social media has only made things more complicated to have an open discussion on this matter.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:55 am to ell_13
quote:
think we can all agree it's a little of both.
Wrong, nuance and understanding is for the weak who want to destroy us all. Pick a side and start shouting.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:56 am to BulldogXero
quote:
BulldogXero
I tried to pick out the worst quote in your three paragraphs of bullshite but I can't. It's all just tremendously bad and insanely wrong.
There are scores of abuse victims who just go on with their lives after the incident - because it's FAR more trouble and trauma for them to go through the criminal justice system.
Let's take a look at some of the things Harvey Weinstein (and DJT) were accused of. Fondling, making obscene overtures to unwilling women. None of those things are likely to end in a felony conviction. If the guy is even charged he'll maybe get probation. Then what? In the case of Weinstein you have to deal with him for the rest of his career if you're in the industry. That's true of the less famous abusers in our world too - they're people's bosses, friends, folks they have to deal with in their little towns forever - long after the incident.
In my town there was an 80 year old lawyer who was charged with getting dome from a 15 year old pro-bono criminal client. You think she was the first victim? Certainly not - others likely just dealt with it because he was a powerful guy and they were nobodies.
Unless a dozen of you come out at the exact same time, people aren’t ready to listen to the allegations and take you seriously. Cosby got the benefit of the doubt for decades - until his victims all came out together with cohesive stories of his abuse. Same for this gymnastics guy.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 7:21 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:56 am to The Mick
I believe the lines have been blurred more than ever as what sexual harassment/abuse is. I have always condemned sexual abusers as sick human beings but I actually thought back to when I was single in my 20's and things I said/did.
I mean is complimenting a woman's appearance and asking them out something I should be ashamed of? Is blatantly asking a woman to have sex considered harassment?
I mean is complimenting a woman's appearance and asking them out something I should be ashamed of? Is blatantly asking a woman to have sex considered harassment?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:57 am to LucasP
quote:Superdog >>> Batcat.
Pick a side and start shouting.
There. I said it.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:57 am to LucasP
quote:
LucasP
Stay gold, LucasPonyboy
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:58 am to ell_13
quote:
Superdog >>> Batcat.
You son of a bitch.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:58 am to oreeg
quote:Isn't it the law in California?
Is blatantly asking a woman to have sex considered harassment?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:00 am to oreeg
quote:
believe the lines have been blurred more than ever as what sexual harassment/abuse is
This is exactly the problem. There's usually an element of coercion or force used to make someone do something of a sexual nature against their will and in fear of the consequences.
quote:
mean is complimenting a woman's appearance and asking them out something I should be ashamed of?
No
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:00 am to oreeg
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This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:08 am to wallowinit
Man there's some cynical frickers in this thread.
Yeah some #meetoos are probably attention seeking but why would that be your default assumption?
Yeah some #meetoos are probably attention seeking but why would that be your default assumption?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:14 am to Goldrush25
quote:
Yeah some #meetoos are probably attention seeking but why would that be your default assumption?
Women have been abusing me for a long time now. It is a separate, but equally huge, problem that unfortunately clouds the issue of sexual assault
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