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re: Math Riddle: How much string would you add....

Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Who started the rumor that Chickens have small brains?


Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on one damned minute.

When you're using the vast reservoir of mental prowess that is the OT as a point of comparison, even a small chicken brain looks behemoth.

The OT: Where even the chickens look smart.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:47 pm to
If the string is elastic, then zero....just stretch.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:05 pm to
Surprisingly simple:

The circumference of a circle = 2pi * r (radius)

Therefore, adding 1 foot to the circumference means this is now 2pi * (r+1) = (2pi*r) + 2pi

The extra amount of string required is therefore 2pi times the additional height, in this case 2pi feet.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

The extra amount of string required is therefore 2pi times the additional height, in this case 2pi feet.
And for you Alabama fans...


This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Cmlsu5618
Destin, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:44 pm to
They way I see it, you need to find the radius first.


25,000= pi*2*r
Or
12,500=pi*r
Or
r= 3,980.81

Thend find new circumference by adding new radius, whice would be 1ft extra.

2 * pi * 3981.81= c
Or
6.28*3981.81
C= 25,005.7

My answer is 6 whole feet.
What am i missing?
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:56 pm to
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My answer is 6 whole feet.
What am i missing?


For starters, you're using a not very good approximation for pi in 3.14. Second, you're plugging in a bunch of numbers which misses the whole point. See foshizzle's post for a correct derivation that reveals the surprising fact that the answer is independent of the size of the sphere; that is, it's the same for a marble, a basketball, the Earth, the Sun, etc.
Posted by Zyggy
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:04 pm to
1. 2pi x r = C
2. 2pi x (r + 1ft) = C'
3. (2pi x r) + (2pi x 1ft) = C'
4. C + 2pi = C'
5. C' - C = 2pi

Assume all units are in feet...
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:12 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:18 pm to
The square root of 25001 squared minus 25000 squared....or some stupid shite like that.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:18 pm to
There are some things that I just can't get, I believe it, and it is starting to make sense but dammit I feel dumb
Posted by RDOtiger
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

quote: Approximately 25,004' ? refer to the OP link for the "cryptic answer"... How much new string would you add to the original 25,000 mile string?


Gotcha! I forgot about subtracting the circumference.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:23 pm to
This is really easy.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:25 pm to
Your math is wonky.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

foshizzle
quote:

Therefore, adding 1 foot to the circumference means this is now 2pi * (r+1) = (2pi*r) + 2pi
That's how I figured it out. Sub "circumference" with "radius" #physicsbrain
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:33 pm to
Why add the 2 pi at then end?
Posted by link
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:33 pm to
weren't you the one with that math riddle a guy at an interview asked you? that one was fun.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

#physicsbrain


My undergrad degree was Physics. The curriculum taught me how to attack these problems quite well. In this case it really doesn't depend on the radius at all.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85143 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Why add the 2 pi at then end?
It's a distribution. The 2pi added at the end is the difference and gives you the answer to the problem.

foshizzle, mine too. I never got a grad degree. Went straight into teaching high school math, then IT for a power generation company.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:49 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:30 pm to
The original string (circumference; 25,000 x 5,280 ft) = 132,000,000 ft
The original diameter = 42,016,904.97626037 ft
The new diameter = 42,016,906.97626037 ft (2 ft longer)
The new circumference = 132,000,006.28318532 ft

Therefore, ergo and hither to...

132,000,006.28318532 ft - 132,000,000 ft = 6.28318532 ft

Diameter/Circumference Calculator
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 9:41 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

In this case it really doesn't depend on the radius at all.
It's an inherent characteristic of all spheres.

quote:

This is really easy.
It is if you express everything in terms of feet.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 9:36 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:41 pm to
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It is if you express everything in terms of feet.


No - the unit of measurement is irrelevant to the solution.
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