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re: Man killed on TN interstate by police....another example of poor decisions

Posted on 3/19/17 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 11:38 am to
How about putting the phone down? To me, if you are live streaming then you aren't giving the stop it's due regard and arguably only heightening tension.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 11:42 am to
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then he should have been killed.


Why?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 11:44 am to
If he made any move towards an officer with his car, justified
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 11:50 am to
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he made any move towards an officer with his car, justified


In some vague direction. The video looked benign.

There's no doubt he'll be cleared, that's how these things generally go.
Posted by DAbully
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 11:57 am to
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Why?


This is just a guess from left field but, Cops don't like being run over by cars? Or maybe they do. Like I said, it's a wild guess.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:00 pm to
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In some vague direction. The video looked benign.

I'm assuming you don't know if their was any officer in that "vague direction"?
Posted by DAbully
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:03 pm to
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I'm assuming you don't know if their was any officer in that "vague direction"?


I'm more than confident that the media has made this person feel like he should always question the actions of police. That now he would take the words of a person who says phrases like "higher commands" instead of the officers sworn to defend his life. Or he just got a speeding ticket recently and would like to see all officers burn.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I'm assuming you don't know if their was any officer in that "vague direction


Do you know he wasn't?

I'm not sure this was a "good shoot" but you seem to be.
Posted by Peregrine Laziosi
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:09 pm to
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He started do drive off, towards an officer supposedly. If so, blast away.


That's what it looked like in the video.

Drove and parked in the middle of the interstate. Obstructing traffic. Was more interested in live streaming the event than driving. Officers come in to question him. Screams I want the higher ups (or whatever he said) tries to drive through and over cops. The officers have every right to defend themselves.

Something had to have been wrong with him mentally.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:09 pm to
I think Roger, in prior posts, has made it clear he is not a fan of LEO. Many on here feel that way, I get it. I'm just trying to point out to him that he's forming an opinion off of pretty big assumptions. That video proves very little either way.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:10 pm to
I'm not sure of anything. No idea why you even think that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:11 pm to
Why? I support justified shootings. I dont blindly support law enforcement. No one should.

Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:16 pm to
I don't either. It's why I said "if". You indicated from watching the video, you didn't feel it was justified. You insinuated they would get off. Not because they might deserve it, but cause that's how it works. I believe it could be a bad shoot depending on unknown circumstances. You don't believe there's any way it's justified. That's the difference between our opinions.
Posted by DAbully
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Why? I support justified shootings. I dont blindly support law enforcement. No one should.



Do you blindly support a doctor's attempt to save your life? You're what's wrong with society. People like you or at least closer to your outlook are the ones happy with riots and burning down small businesses without even the slightest want or need of truth. People on my end of the spectrum would be perfectly fine with an investigation running it's course to find whether to shooting was justified or not.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:19 pm to
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You don't believe there's any way it's justified.


No. Where did you gather that? Link?

I have my doubts, but haven't said it's not justified. Looks like the dude asked to see a superior then was nailed.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:21 pm to
When you declared them trigger happy cops maybe, lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
I didn't declare, I said it appeared. Do you see anything on the clip to dispute it?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:33 pm to
It's a shame he was shot because I think I read somewhere that the victim was scheduled to find a cure for cancer next year.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:51 pm to
Yes I do. The fact that he refused to comply, then began to take off in the vehicle, is clearly a fact that in the very least is a cause for possible dispute. Doesn't prove anything, but a cause for question. Enough to question calling them simply trigger happy before knowing the facts. Or seeing an outside video that shows the entire scene. Can't you even see that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 12:53 pm to
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The fact that he refused to comply
can't kill a man for that.

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Enough to question calling them simply trigger happy before knowing the facts. Or seeing an outside video that shows the entire scene. Can't you even see that?


Ok, the guy wanted to leave and got killed. Looks like a good kill.
This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 12:55 pm
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