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re: Making A Murder O-T Lounge Thread
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:58 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:58 am to TheCaterpillar
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Did he have a Dexter crime scene setup?
He would have to. So this criminal mastermind can stage a kill room, yet he leaves the car just sitting there. When they have a car compactor on property.
Yeah. Okay. I'll buy that.
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:04 am to tylercsbn9
Exactly.
Hmmmm I will put her car over here and cover it with some pallets and branches. I should be good. Oh hell I will just go ahead and let them have free access to search the property without a warrant. I am positive they won't find it.
Hmmmm I will put her car over here and cover it with some pallets and branches. I should be good. Oh hell I will just go ahead and let them have free access to search the property without a warrant. I am positive they won't find it.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:10 am to AlbertMeansWell
Many of the OT are defending an exemplary din du nuffin
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:17 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Exactly.
Hmmmm I will put her car over here and cover it with some pallets and branches. I should be good. Oh hell I will just go ahead and let them have free access to search the property without a warrant. I am positive they won't find it.
Which would make sense if he was also a complete idiot about the murder scene.
But instead he masterminded a spotless murder despite using barbaric and messy techniques. Then just forgot to hide the car or wipe it down?
My thoughts:
1. He did it out in the salvage yard and transported her body to the garage in her car to dismember it, and then dragged to the fire from there, explaining the large amounts of blood in the car and the bleach scenario with Brendan helping clean the garage. Remember, if she had been dead for a while, the blood wouldn’t be too bad during dismemberment in the garage, especially if it was cold outside.
(Or he killed and dismembered in the salvage yard and moved with the car and never did anything indoors)
2. The cops framed him with the key and bullet because they thought they didn’t have enough evidence with no murder weapon or crime scene. They found the key in the car and Steven had tried to wipe it down ineffectively and left his sweat DNA on it IMO.
3. Brendan didn’t help kill her. He was completely fed some bullshite by the cops to bolster case against Steven. Basically, he was collateral damage which makes the fact they didn’t even use his testimony even more fricked up.
This would create a different narrative. Not one where Steven Avery had a perfectly set up kill room and then inexplicably didn’t take care of the car, but rather one where he killed her in the yard and was a dumbass about the whole thing. You can’t have a narrative where he is BOTH a mastermind and also makes a mistake like the car. It makes more sense if he was just a dumbass the whole time.
The only issue that I can’t get over is the license plate called in 2 days before finding the car by Colbourn.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:19 am to TheCaterpillar
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I'm assuming he saw the movie or someone told him to say that.
I agree with this.
I think Avery did it, but there is no way he should have been convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. The police fricked up so bad with their planting of evidence. And how in the frick did the father of a MC police officer make it on the jury.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:22 am to TheCaterpillar
I also believe he did it put in the yard and then later moved her
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:24 am to AlbertMeansWell
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it is what it is
Always a strong tag to a great argument.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:28 am to TheCaterpillar
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bleach scenario with Brendan helping clean the garage
zero evidence of bleach or blood in the garage found by forensics.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:34 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
A case like this is what reasonable doubt was made for. But, it seems some still think we're living in the Wild West where we execute people on hunches.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:36 am to monsterballads
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zero evidence of bleach or blood in the garage found by forensics.
I know there was no blood, which I covered in my post.
I didn't know if they tested for bleach or how long that residue would last? There was a story that the documentary left out about Brendan having clothes ruined by bleach that night after helping his uncle clean his garage.
Again, I think he was a dumbass about the whole thing (car, body, etc.), but they couldn't find a murder weapon or murder scene so they tried to frame him as some mastermind killer.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:37 am to weedGOKU666
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A case like this is what reasonable doubt was made for. But, it seems some still think we're living in the Wild West where we execute people on hunches.
Reasonable Doubt has taken a backseat to the Court of Public Opinion.
Its scary as shite.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:37 am to monsterballads
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zero evidence of bleach or blood in the garage found by forensics.
Even if there was bleach residue found I seriously doubt those two nimrods would've had the expertise to completely wipe the garage clean. Much more accomplished criminals have been nailed by that type of evidence.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:39 am to AlbertMeansWell
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Steven Avery is guilty of murder but no one wants to hear it.
maybe
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This also applies to the the people who think Adnan Syed is innocent.
nah
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:40 am to Goldrush25
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Even if there was bleach residue found I seriously doubt those two nimrods would've had the expertise to completely wipe the garage clean. Much more accomplished criminals have been nailed by that type of evidence.
Well if she had been dead for several hours outside in 40 degree weather, she isn't going to be bleeding anymore. So if he killed her out in the salvage yard then left her in the car until he could put her in the garage to dismember, maybe she didn't bleed in the garage.
Or he killed and dismembered her in the salvage yard, drove the body to the pit, then went and hid the car.
That might make the most sense. That way he was a dumbass about the whole thing (which makes sense because he is 100% an idiot).
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:44 am to TheCaterpillar
Yep I just changed my theory again:
1. He killed and dismembered her in the salvage yard.
2. Transported her body to fire pit in her car…like a dumbass
3. Hid her car…like a dumbass
4. Cops planted evidence because they had no murder weapon or murder scene.
5. Brendan was fed a bullshite story by detectives to help case against Steve and he didn’t have shite to do with it except maybe helping burn the body in the pit.
1. He killed and dismembered her in the salvage yard.
2. Transported her body to fire pit in her car…like a dumbass
3. Hid her car…like a dumbass
4. Cops planted evidence because they had no murder weapon or murder scene.
5. Brendan was fed a bullshite story by detectives to help case against Steve and he didn’t have shite to do with it except maybe helping burn the body in the pit.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:46 am to TheCaterpillar
I agree with your theory.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:48 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:
1. He killed and dismembered her in the salvage yard.
2. Transported her body to fire pit in her car…like a dumbass
How did he kill her that left so little residue in the car?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:50 am to Big Scrub TX
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How did he kill her that left so little residue in the car?
For all we know he just shot her outside, let her bleed out on the ground for a while, then dismembered her outdoors, then wrapped her parts up in a sheet or towel, put them in the car, and drove them to the fire pit.
There was substantial blood from her head in the car. We know it came from her skull because her hair rubbed it on there.
And dismembering a dead body in the cold will not bleed a lot. The gun shot wounds would that killed her, but that could've all been on the grass/mud out in the salvage yard somewhere.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:53 am to TheCaterpillar
This is an actual workable theory. I'm still not entirely sold, though. The main evidence putting him in that car was his blood, and it wasn't ruled out that the blood was planted.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:55 am to weedGOKU666
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This is an actual workable theory. I'm still not entirely sold, though. The main evidence putting him in that car was his blood, and it wasn't ruled out that the blood was planted.
Also wasn't determined that it was. We just don't know.
I ignored his blood in the car in my theory. That could've been planted by the cops like the key and bullet because they thought they didn't have a good enough case.
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