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re: Macklemore's new song White Privilege II just released

Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:07 pm to
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I figured Macklemore mostly appealed to Ellen viewers who want to seem hip to their 5th grader.
that's what I think too.

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But he's white which offsets being a terrible rapper....White Privilege.
exactly. if you want to listen to "thoughtful" rap listen to J Cole or something. Macklemore is awful.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17097 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:11 pm to
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Houses in Levittown were quite cheap, but black people weren't permitted to enjoy the advantage of buying there. Families who bought in Levittown in the 1940s and 50s greatly benefited as property values increased, and were able to borrow against their homes to start businesses and exercise greater economic freedom in general. They've done very well.

But black families were excluded from this advantage, and that has lasting effects on their families. Property gets handed down, and businesses grow over time. Black families did not have access to the kinds of economic opportunities that were granted to white families in Levittown.


So because of certain instances of past institutional racism, which I've never heard any white person ever refute took place in the past, it lends credence to some abstract notion of "white privilege" that gets thrown around arbitrarily today and is applied to ALL whites in regard to almost any area where whites appear to do better collectively than other races (blacks particularly)? White privilege, in the manner it is used socially and politically today, is a bullshite leftist idea and is vague and abstract enough to fit whatever definition a fits a particular agenda narrative.

Yes, there was injustice in the past. Yes it offered many whites advantages that it didn't offer blacks. But many whites did not benefit from such specific instances and the term today is used to be UNIVERSALLY applied to all whites. It's Marxist rhetorical garbage.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13472 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:20 pm to
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So because of certain instances of past institutional racism, which I've never heard any white person ever refute took place in the past, it lends credence to some abstract notion of "white privilege" that gets thrown around arbitrarily today and is applied to ALL whites in regard to almost any area where whites appear to do better collectively than other races (blacks particularly)? White privilege, in the manner it is used socially and politically today, is a bullshite leftist idea and is vague and abstract enough to fit whatever definition a fits a particular agenda narrative.

Yes, there was injustice in the past. Yes it offered many whites advantages that it didn't offer blacks. But many whites did not benefit from such specific instances and the term today is used to be UNIVERSALLY applied to all whites. It's Marxist rhetorical garbage.

It has nothing to do with Marxism. I mean wtf man? That's not a tenable statement at all

I mean the only thing it has to do with Marxism, in a vague sense, is that Marx was concerned about economic and political inequality. But he believed that class separated people more than race or nationality. When Marx talked about inequality, he was talking about economic classes.

Talking about racial privilege or sexual privilege is not Marxist in nature.

My post about Levittown and it being an example of racial privilege is not meant to be exhaustive. It's simply one example of a society structured in such a way to confer privilege to whites. I think whites are less privileged now than they were 50 years ago, but I think that privilege/advantage exists.

I think there are other examples of social privilege (versus economic privilege) but like I said earlier, I don't want to get stuck in this thread because I've already exhausted the amount of fricks I can give.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:37 pm to
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It has nothing to do with Marxism. I mean wtf man? That's not a tenable statement at all


Marxism transcends the simple ideas of Marx in his own time. Marxism has adopted many techniques and methods for advancing their agenda from the 19th century to today. Marxist factions today absolutely utilize the issue of race and sexuality. Like you, I will not get exhaustive on this issue but it is manifestly apparent.

Also, you act as though the term "white privilege" in used within a responsible, limited, consistent, and well delineated framework when applied. That is far from true and is quite misleading.
Posted by Farmtiger
West "By God" Monroe
Member since Dec 2003
2966 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:53 pm to
Who?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34638 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:24 pm to
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Macklemore uses his white privilege to cater to all the suburban white kids


he's a typical Seattle douche, and he uses his white privilege to "make up" and exploit for his own gain a name that has deep roots in Native American (Cherokee) history and the settlement of the American South. f him.

(And his spelling is actually one of the original spellings of the name when we came to Va/NC from Scotland. I'm sure he still thinks he made it up as a kid.)

Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7553 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:32 pm to
Someday, hopefully, we will elect a black president. That will put an end to this white privilege jive.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11148 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:39 pm to
List what you believe are the real issues in America today. Also, list the causes and proposed solutions to said problems you believe exist. TIA.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:44 pm to
100th downvote.

Song is terrible too.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3237 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:55 pm to
Part of the song is "hands up, don't shoot".

Aaand I'm done
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:55 pm to
Half of that song is Russell Wilson's song.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42256 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:00 pm to
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Pandering to the SJWs has never not worked right?


Same as pandering to rednecks.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:05 pm to
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(And his spelling is actually one of the original spellings of the name when we came to Va/NC from Scotland. I'm sure he still thinks he made it up as a kid.)


isn't haggerty an irish name?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51390 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 6:22 pm to
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Same as pandering to rednecks.

Rednecks don't kamikaze your twitter account or know how to dox
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15369 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 6:29 pm to
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Great song imo

By "great song" do you actually mean "fricking terrible?"
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 6:29 pm to
Sadly I regret to inform the OT that I will not be purchasing this song on ITunes. I found myself triggered by the lyrics and confused by my white plight.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 7:29 pm to
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So what is accomplished by this acknowledgement?

The better question is what is accomplished by denying the obvious?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 7:34 pm to
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ok then, in the broad sense,. Say you walked up to a black person and said "I acknowledge my white privilege and wish i didn't have it"

What would happen?
Definitely a weird look.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 7:41 pm to
So far I've read those no tangible evidence, it's an abstract notion, and it's just a thought process.

There's definitely never ever ever in the history of the world been a study conducted that shows such a thing, is that what you guys assume?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 7:47 pm to
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but I think that privilege/advantage exists.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

two full God damned generations of affirmative action and they STILL need it apparently

I will tell you what "white privilege" is - being more talented.
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