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re: LSU lakes master planning work kicks off Wednesday
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:44 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:44 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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To keep the lakes healthy for the next several decades,
I thought nature was the arbtrar of what is healthy and what is not.
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:49 pm to Hammertime
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How hard is it to understand that is absolutely not a landscape architecture project. This is miles out of the scope of anything anyone in that building has or would do. It is a civil and environmental engineering project only
Sorry brah, I was assuming joggin paths, green space, and landscaping was within that scope. I guess they just lay out parking lots now.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:55 pm to Hammertime
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How hard is it to understand that is absolutely not a landscape architecture project. This is miles out of the scope of anything anyone in that building has or would do. It is a civil and environmental engineering project only
Then why are they hiring a landscape architecture firm to decide what to do with the dredged materials? He was talking about enlisting LSU LA school for it, as we supposedly have one of the best LA programs in the country. He wasn't suggesting we hire a bunch of 18-21 year olds studying landscape architecture to dredge the lakes. Jesus.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:08 pm to fightin tigers
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Hopefully since the school is highly (top 3 most years) they have someone capable of pulling this off. Nothing like a college that can't prepare students for actual real world jobs I guess.
I'm just saying there's usually a large gap between theory and practice. Private firms have large databases of drawings, details, specifications, etc. along with years of experience assembling these items to form a competent set of construction documents, things the school wouldn't have.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:10 pm to Hammertime
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How hard is it to understand that is absolutely not a landscape architecture project.
There is most definitely is a large landscape architectural aspect to this project.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:10 pm to lsu2006
I think this would be a great way to showcase the LSU LA program while giving these students the opportunity to experience a real-life scenario.
Students could submit their proposal to BRAF, present their ideas, and hear the output of the foundation.
The likelihood of them getting chosen is unlikely, but as a student myself, this would be awesome experience as an undergraduate.
Students could submit their proposal to BRAF, present their ideas, and hear the output of the foundation.
The likelihood of them getting chosen is unlikely, but as a student myself, this would be awesome experience as an undergraduate.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:11 pm to urinetrouble
just let it go back to being marsh land
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:20 pm to once again
Here's some before/after pictures they are envisioning the area to look like. Looks good 
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:24 pm to choupiquesushi
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andscape architects know nothing about dredging a lake...Or Managing a watershed...which will do the same thing again,,,,
Landscape Architect checking in. I'm a landscape architect that has done a good bit of dredging and watershed management in addition to long-term ecological planning. Plus, dredging is only a third of plan. There is design for the areas around the lake and then long-term management planning.
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Why aren't they looking to LSU landscape architecture school for this? Couldn't they take it on as a continuing project?
It would make for a good academic project, but this is nowhere within the scope of knowledge of students or professors. Not to mention it's a multi-year project that couldn't be completed in a semester or two.
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I'd much rather they leave it to a nationally renowned firm
I'd much rather leave it to a local firm, of which there are several capable of something like this. From the looks of it though, they are looking for national firms, which is a shame. Two national firms just got major downtown projects when there were a good number of local firms that submitted that were plenty capable to do the job. It's getting pretty annoying that projects keep going out of town. Town Square was designed by a JV of two local firms. There is talent in the city that gets pushed aside.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:24 pm to GeorgeReymond
Those pics are from Houston on buffalo bayou by downtown. I run there 2-3 times a week.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:25 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I know a lot of the people heavily involved in this. Goes without saying they're excited
Lawd knows the lakes have needed it.
Lawd knows the lakes have needed it.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:31 pm to BottomlandBrew
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I'd much rather leave it to a local firm, of which there are several capable of something like this. From the looks of it though, they are looking for national firms, which is a shame.
I'm guessing it could be JV between a local and a national. That seems to be all the rage lately with city and state building projects, especially around LSU.
And I wasn't trying to knock local firms, just comparing to the impractical extreme of letting the school do the work.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:36 pm to urinetrouble
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I'm guessing it could be JV between a local and a national. That seems to be all the rage lately with city and state building projects, especially around LSU.
Yeah, that's been SOP for a few years now. Usually the national is the prime and the local is a sub. We've gotten in on a few of those.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:38 pm to BottomlandBrew
Could we use the excess mud for a berm at Alex Box?
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:06 pm to BottomlandBrew
quote:So tell me about building on shrink-swell clay. How well does it work?
BottomlandBrew
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:17 pm to Hammertime
It will never be ready in time.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:29 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
You'd think this would be a good use some of that 80+ million BREC is hoarding especially with them getting the tax renewal..
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:45 pm to fightin tigers
Im sure LSU will let students do a project on this, or even participate in some of the public meetings, but you have to hire a licensed professional to get most things built.....especially something this extensive.
Experience goes a long way toward a successful project when you're talking about a multi-million dollar investment.
Students will get good experience from being involved, just not leading it.
Experience goes a long way toward a successful project when you're talking about a multi-million dollar investment.
Students will get good experience from being involved, just not leading it.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:51 pm to Hammertime
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It is a civil and environmental engineering project only
They want an LA to lead because they want something that looks good, in addition to being functional. If you let civils and environmental engineers lead, you would get a very efficient, very environmentally-friendly, very unattractive product.
LAs have the ability to consider both environmental and practical aspects while still maintaining an overall aesthetic. Not to mention intertwining the recreational aspect into the whole concept.
Bottomland, I'm guessing hammer is a trolling civil.....
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:22 pm to zbrous4
Mechanical, but that is besides the point. The primary goal is to dredge the lakes. Secondary is beautification. If they just wanted it to look good, why don't they just have landscape architects solely on the job
I have known probably 30 people who came out of LA at LSU, and not a single one of them has anywhere near the knowledge to do anything about the dredging
I have known probably 30 people who came out of LA at LSU, and not a single one of them has anywhere near the knowledge to do anything about the dredging
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