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re: LSU Considers South Campus Annexation

Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:47 am to
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LSU needs to stay out of politics. By getting into the annexation discussion they are choosing sides. This will create a lot of angry phone calls for them. It's best if they do nothing and let the whole thing play out.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:50 am to
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Thanks for this answer. I'll ignore the other.

I won't.

Are you under the impression that a location has to be within the city limits of a city for that address to use that city's name as its address?

I didn't understand what you meant when you asked why the L'b casino uses Baton Rouge as its city address since it is not in the city.

Almost all of the St George addresses now use Baton Rouge as their city and none of them are in the city limits of Baton Rouge.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:51 am to
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I found that city, russian
ISWYDT
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:53 am to
I was under the impression that some current areas of the proposed St. George were within the BR city limits.
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

You didn't.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:54 am to
I notice that the annexation stops just short of Gardere. Why does Baton Rouge want to exclude that area with a high concentration of African Americans from all of the benefits of being Baton Rouge residents? This looks racially motivated to me since it will have disparate impact on the African Americans living just outside the annexation compared to the non-African Americans living within the annexation area.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:55 am to
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LSU needs to stay out of politics.
I agree, but that has never happened before and I doubt it will happen now.

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By getting into the annexation discussion they are choosing sides.
I can see where having part of its campus property in two cities could create some logistical problems. Traffic issues, building permit issues, public works support issues, having two different sets of politicians to give football tickets to....that sort of thing.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:57 am to
Good. I'm sure all of the St. Georgians will think this is some swipe at them, when in reality it's probably about LSU consolidating the campus. And even if it were about St. George, LSU would have a significant interest in ensuring its campus was all in one city and not spread out over two, one of which has ever-fluctuating tax estimations.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:02 am to
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I notice that the annexation stops just short of Gardere. Why does Baton Rouge want to exclude that area with a high concentration of African Americans from all of the benefits of being Baton Rouge residents?
Poodle, you keep weighing in in these SG threads and your lack of knowledge of BR laws and regulations is evident. Don't you live in the Monroe area?

But to answer your question, there are two different processes used under the EBR ordinance for annexing property into the city.

One process is for primarily residential property and one process is for primarily commercial or primarily undeveloped land.

The LSU property is mostly undeveloped property and of course the casino is commercial property.

The Gardere area you refer to is primarily residential. To include the Gardere area into this specific annexation move, it would require two different processes to accomplish.

Also, are you under the impression Baton Rouge is currently underrepresented by African Americans in its census?
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4181 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:10 am to
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Also, are you under the impression Baton Rouge is currently underrepresented by African Americans in its census?


Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:15 am to
St George "leaders" are going to use petty tactics to threaten and boycott businesses who try to opt out of paying them extra taxes.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:18 am to
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LSU would have a significant interest in ensuring its campus was all in one city and not spread out over two, one of which has ever-fluctuating tax estimations


Correct. There are entities that do pay taxes (both sales and property) that exist on campus and in their southern acreage.
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4020 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:21 am to
It would make sense to have your entire campus located in one municipality for tax purposes, police protection, fire protection, etc. Celtic studios is trying to do the same thing because part of their property is outside the city limits. They stated that depending on the part of the property they are shooting a movie on, they must call out different law enforcement groups. I can see how it would simplify things to just be in one instead of two.

As far as the casino goes, it would make it easier for them to annex that property since it would be contiguous to the newly annexed LSU property.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 9:23 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:22 am to
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St George "leaders" are going to use petty tactics to threaten and boycott businesses
Maybe some of those rich white folks in St George will give up their prime LSU football season tickets as a protest against LSU and then us po' folks will finally have a chance to sit on the 50 yard line.

Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4020 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:25 am to
It's hilarious that people think the city is behind this and that LSU isn't pushing for it.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:33 am to
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It's hilarious that people think the city is behind this and that LSU isn't pushing for it.

The paranoia of the SG supporters on this board is unlimited.
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
5829 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:34 am to
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I just googled and I don't see that "arse" is a city in Louisiana.


I found it.

Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:14 am to
I live off Perkins Rd. in unincorporated East Baton Rouge Parish. I was opposed to St. George originally, but I am swinging against Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge wants to preserve the current separate and unequal status that works to its benefit. It is offensive that Baton Rouge will not address the legitimate concerns of the St. George area residents, and reacts with efforts to punish rather than ameliorate.

My post was a backhanded jab at those who made national headlines by claiming the real purpose of the St. George incorporation effort is to separate an affluent, more white community, from the more African American Baton Rouge. My deliberately exaggerated outrageous injection of racial issues will not get anywhere near the same attention, but it is no less valid than those who raised it as reason for opposition to St. George. Procedural differences in the annexation don't matter when using Alinski tactics. Why rain on my provocation with boring things like laws?
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16458 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:26 am to
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it would make sense to have your entire campus located in one municipality for tax purposes, police protection, fire protection, etc. Celtic studios is trying to do the same thing because part of their property is outside the city limits.


If it was important to lsu then why didn't they do it long ago?

If being in one city and having one service etc was so important to Celtic then why did they build their business overlapping two areas?

They didn't care before, so why now? The answer is obviously bc of St. George
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:28 am to
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They didn't care before, so why now? The answer is obviously bc of St. George


Well yea. There wasn't a need with the unincorporated area because it was governed by the same council and mayor-president.
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4020 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:54 am to
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If being in one city and having one service etc was so important to Celtic then why did they build their business overlapping two areas?


I think Celtic has expanded into surrounding properties as their business has grown and their property is right on the line. And the CEO of Celtic said he wanted to be in Baton Rouge because nobody knows what the hell St. George, LA is.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 10:55 am
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