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Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:54 am to When in Rome
Why does their map show Zachary and st. Francisville as open water? these areas aren't even wetlands.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:59 am to WeeWee
And unfortunately the corp made the problem worse by levee'ing St. Bernard/ New Orleans east. The Bayou Biloxi/ Point a la Hache marsh will be a bunch of spotty islands in 10yrs and non existent in 50yrs. But that's what St. Bernard/ Chalmette wanted post Katrina.
Solution:
Blow the levees south of Belle Chase but levee the communities themselves ie Port Sulphur and Venice. Connect them with a causeway for transportation.
Then over the next 10yrs move the port of New Orleans along lake pontchartrain in New Orleans East. Moving the port actually makes more sense economically as its a more direct shot to the gulf from the Lake via Chef, Lake Borgne, and Miss. Sound.
That's all I got...
Solution:
Blow the levees south of Belle Chase but levee the communities themselves ie Port Sulphur and Venice. Connect them with a causeway for transportation.
Then over the next 10yrs move the port of New Orleans along lake pontchartrain in New Orleans East. Moving the port actually makes more sense economically as its a more direct shot to the gulf from the Lake via Chef, Lake Borgne, and Miss. Sound.
That's all I got...
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:08 am to Zephyrius
What was Louisiana's plan that the state approved but is still waiting on funding from the feds? Anybody got a summary on what it said to do?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:17 am to WeeWee
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:26 am to Creamer
quote:
Why does their map show Zachary and st. Francisville as open water?
Puzzling. The Mississippi does run through St. Francisville. Will it breach the levies and flood all the way to Zachary?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:31 am to Zephyrius
i dont have the hard numbers, but it was a big difference from what i remember in classes, my concentration was basically coastal erosion and management, but i havent done anything with it since i graduated in 2010 haha
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:38 am to Zephyrius
i wonder what it would be like if St. Bernard residents were forced to live in either Arabi, Chalmette, Meraux, Violet, or Poydras
it would save us a heck of a lot on fire stations, school buses and policing
maybe we can start a new parish with the people on the Judge Perez extension, Bayou Road, and the fishing communities
it would save us a heck of a lot on fire stations, school buses and policing
maybe we can start a new parish with the people on the Judge Perez extension, Bayou Road, and the fishing communities
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:43 am to chalmetteowl
That map is super inaccurate, especially the SW LA part. Cameron is not all wetlands, they even erased most of Calcasieu which is ridiculous.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:05 am to When in Rome
Looks like Opelousas is going to be waterfront property 
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:10 am to When in Rome
My camp is gone 
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:24 am to Bard
Forgive my ignorance but can you explain why blowing the levees will reverse the erosion. Is it bc of all the sediment that will flow into eroded areas and eventually build itself back up?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:27 am to Zephyrius
quote:
Solution:
Blow the levees south of Belle Chase but levee the communities themselves ie Port Sulphur and Venice. Connect them with a causeway for transportation.
I can see it now, the Louisiana Keys
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:29 am to dafuqusay
Yes... basically from what I remember from geography class is that when we started building levees we started to get in the way of the natural flow of the MS River. The MS River has changed course about 10 - 15 times over 1000s of years. When we started messing with its natural course we began to mess with its sediment distribution which ultimately is why we have no marshes, etc etc etc. Its sort of too late to just let the MS River go where it wants to since we have communities and buildings all along the MS River now. You can chalk this one up as a huge f*ck up
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:40 am to When in Rome
Tons of ignorance and stupidity in this article and this thread.
First off classifing wetlands as open water is plain dumb. Jesus it has the fricking word "land" in it.
New Orleans was established in 1718. It would have been discovered in 1717 but it was flooded. Most of Orleans parish, Metairie, and all of St Bernard parish was swamp and "wetlands" during the early years of New Orleans. The only "dry" land was what is today the French Quarter. As New Orleans grew it expanded from the River north to the lake. These areas were swamp lands that were dried to establish livable areas. So to be correct these areas that the author is calling "disappearing" were actually converted from wetalnds to dry land.
The Miss River transports 40% less sediment today then it did just 50 years ago due to dams on the Missouri River. Most people don't realize most of the water comes from the Ohio River and most of the sediment comes from the Missouri and Red.
Finally people say blow the levees or put in diversions. Its not that easy. The only "diversion" in the state that is working is Wax Lake Outlet. This is a man made diversion that is always flowing and during high water can reach 250,000 to 300,000cfs. If this was done in the NOLA area it would totally change the saltwater fishers in the area. Thus the push back from commercial and residential fishermen will be hugh. Not saying it should not be done. Just saying a lot of people will resist it.
First off classifing wetlands as open water is plain dumb. Jesus it has the fricking word "land" in it.
New Orleans was established in 1718. It would have been discovered in 1717 but it was flooded. Most of Orleans parish, Metairie, and all of St Bernard parish was swamp and "wetlands" during the early years of New Orleans. The only "dry" land was what is today the French Quarter. As New Orleans grew it expanded from the River north to the lake. These areas were swamp lands that were dried to establish livable areas. So to be correct these areas that the author is calling "disappearing" were actually converted from wetalnds to dry land.
The Miss River transports 40% less sediment today then it did just 50 years ago due to dams on the Missouri River. Most people don't realize most of the water comes from the Ohio River and most of the sediment comes from the Missouri and Red.
Finally people say blow the levees or put in diversions. Its not that easy. The only "diversion" in the state that is working is Wax Lake Outlet. This is a man made diversion that is always flowing and during high water can reach 250,000 to 300,000cfs. If this was done in the NOLA area it would totally change the saltwater fishers in the area. Thus the push back from commercial and residential fishermen will be hugh. Not saying it should not be done. Just saying a lot of people will resist it.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:24 am to ksayetiger
yes it is reduced due to better erosion control and due to dams on the Missouri. BUT, 205 million metric tons annually is still a lot. I have seen it best described this way: "Would you not cash in a 205M dollar winning powerball ticket because the last person who won cashed theirs in for 450M dollars?"
https://www.coastalmasterplan.louisiana.gov/
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:25 am to When in Rome
What they're showing is worst case scenario
We will not see that in our lifetime
We will not see that in our lifetime
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:26 am to recruitnik
quote:
we can hire American engineers
ehh...kinda like they helped build the levees prior to katrina?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:33 am to BigHoss
quote:
the corps of engineers has done WAY more damage than the oil commpanies
required to keep cool cities afloat like NOLA. 
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