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Louisiana law enforcement only issues 50% as many traffic tickets as they did 10 years ago

Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:02 pm
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37373 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:02 pm
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Traffic filings in Louisiana decreased 48% from 2009 to 2019, declining every year during that time, says Rémy Starns, the state’s chief public defender.

Traffic tickets are the primary source of local funding for public defense, so the decline shifts more of the cost to state taxpayers and left public defenders in more than half of the state’s judicial districts running a deficit last year, a Louisiana legislative auditor report shows.

Relying on conviction and user fees, or CUFs, is “unreliable, unpredictable, and unsustainable, and the difficulty of relying on CUFs was exacerbated by COVID-19,” the report states.

In 2020, traffic filings fell by almost 25% and courts closed statewide. Many districts furloughed employees and canceled contracts to avoid a fiscal crisis.

Combined revenue of public defenders in Louisiana was $56.04 million for the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2020, while combined expenditures totaled $55.7 million. For that year, 22 public defender offices reported deficits. The state has 42 judicial districts, though two districts submit a single combined report.


This seems to kill the argument many of you like to regurgitate that law enforcement is too focused on generating revenue through traffic tickets to catch real criminals.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19571 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:03 pm to

I don’t think LA is alone in this, and I think the decrease in ticketing has been going on for closer to 30 years.

In cities, the argument that ticketing is done to raise revenue is valid. When I lived in Midcity, I watched every year as NOPD let people park wherever they wanted for days leading up to Endymion, and as soon as the parade started they rolled in a dozen tow trucks and vans full of meter maids.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124589 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:04 pm to
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This seems to kill the argument many of you like to regurgitate that law enforcement is too focused on generating revenue through traffic tickets to catch real criminals


Well the 170 murders tells us something isn’t going right
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82369 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:04 pm to
Yeah, but I can't wrap my mind around a system that bases budgets and funding off of people breaking the law...is there going to be state funded ads asking people to speed more?
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11533 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:05 pm to
They prefer asset forfeiture, I am sure that is on the decline too...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:11 pm to
Over the last few years I’ve noticed overall a decrease in people being pulled over.
Posted by Deege
Member since Dec 2007
845 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:24 pm to
Maybe is an acknowledgement that mankind has evolved to the point that we can drive and text at the same time.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68943 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:25 pm to
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In cities, the argument that ticketing is done to raise revenue is valid. When I lived in Midcity, I watched every year as NOPD let people park wherever they wanted for days leading up to Endymion, and as soon as the parade started they rolled in a dozen tow trucks and vans full of meter maids.


This is true. When I lived in mid city I only saw boots on cars twice a year and tickets on cars too close to stop signs.

Endymion and Jazz Fest
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:26 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68943 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:30 pm to
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Half of Louisiana’s 42 public defenders’ offices spent more money than they took in during the last fiscal year, according to a new report from the Louisiana Legislative Auditor. COVID-19 and weather disasters were blamed for the deficit spending because they diminished the amount of traffic tickets administered by local authorities – a main source of public defender funding.


Hmm, like that’s on them then.

So less people going to court because of covid and weather disasters should mean less hours for public defenders no?

Or maybe, just maybe, they should take a fricking pay cut.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:31 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6609 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:32 pm to
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Yeah, but I can't wrap my mind around a system that bases budgets and funding off of people breaking the law...is there going to be state funded ads asking people to speed more?


How much time have you spent in smaller towns and villages in Louisiana? Folsom comes to mind.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30300 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:35 pm to
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Over the last few years I’ve noticed overall a decrease in people being pulled over.


I’ve thought this recently also.
Posted by Tygerfan
Member since Jan 2004
33746 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:42 pm to
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When I lived in Midcity, I watched every year as NOPD let people park wherever they wanted for days


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they rolled in a dozen tow trucks and vans full of meter maids.


You do know NOPD and the meter maids are 2 totally separate departments within the city, right? And NOPD has zero control over the meter maids?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164354 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:45 pm to
Probably because they raised the speed limit on I-49 from 70 to 75 around 2010 so Washington can’t give out as many tickets.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47841 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:49 pm to
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Louisiana law enforcement only issues 50% as many traffic tickets as they did 10 years ago


This is great news.

1. Maybe we’re driving safer as a state. I’m sure there are numbers for accidents and injuries and deaths out there too

2. The cops are more chill

3. The localities who depend on traffic ticketing for funding either make it up through other sources or learn to survive on less revenue.

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Probably because they raised the speed limit on I-49 from 70 to 75 around 2010 so Washington can’t give out as many tickets.
wasn’t there a law they changed where if a speeding violation on the Interstate was questionable, small towns who just happened to have the Interstate there wouldn’t automatically get the money?
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11103 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:56 pm to
It is an inherently flawed system where anything is funded directly by traffic violations, or funded by any crime or conviction for that matter.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5911 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

This is great news.

1. Maybe we’re driving safer as a state. I’m sure there are numbers for accidents and injuries and deaths out there too

2. The cops are more chill

3. The localities who depend on traffic ticketing for funding either make it up through other sources or learn to survive on less revenue.


Bad news

1. No, crashes are up.

2. Cops have been directed to not do traffic stops because of BLM b.s.

3. Small town cops are probably still doing the same thing.

More and more people are driving a 100 on the Interstate. We have a crash (on flat, dry, straight roads) shutting down the City damn near every day. Cops need to get back on the roads and ticketing jackasses driving a 100 while watching Netflix.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:59 pm to
Waze TYFYS
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:01 pm to
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3. Small town cops are probably still doing the same thing


Am I dreaming it up, or wasn't there a law passed on % revenue for municipalities from tickets. Meant to end cities like Woodworth and Port Vincent.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52164 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:10 pm to
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Louisiana law enforcement only issues 50% as many traffic tickets as they did 10 years ago
I couldn't tell you the last time I saw Livingston or Walker writing tickets on I-12. I drive through there everyday and they used to constantly have people pulled over
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4533 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:19 pm to
So Rémy is complaining that the state LE is not writing enough to tickets to fund the public defender office so that his office can in turn defend the people that are getting ticketed? I'm confused.

We need more people in trouble so that we can fund defending the same people getting in trouble?? I realize the likelihood of a public defender defending traffic citations would be rare but my point remains the same.
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