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Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
All big cities have seen a rise in homicides over the last 2 years.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:26 pm to bbrownso
Wow, what a strange coincidence.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:30 pm to PowerTool
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Wow, what a strange coincidence.
It's like less police and less law enforcement efforts lead to higher crime.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:35 pm to Delacroix22
quote:When were social workers granted arresting powers? Completely missed that.
A “social worker” will arrest the person
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:42 pm to bbrownso
If those officers are better trained it might work well.
Think of it like any other workforce, more isn’t always better. Sometimes fewer, better trained staff is more effective.
Think of it like any other workforce, more isn’t always better. Sometimes fewer, better trained staff is more effective.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:47 pm to TexasTiger1185
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Think of it like any other workforce, more isn’t always better. Sometimes fewer, better trained staff is more effective.
The problem is that they cut the overall budget by $100+ million. They cut the number of officers employed by a decent percentage. And, they cut the overtime budget.
That is not a good thing no matter how you look at it. By this time next year, they will be asking the officers they do have to voluntarily work overtime, bet on it.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:48 pm to TexasTiger1185
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If those officers are better trained it might work well.
Think of it like any other workforce, more isn’t always better. Sometimes fewer, better trained staff is more effective.
Or hey, we could train them all you know.
There's this thing called capacity and you need it to be able to handle workload.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:51 pm to Delacroix22
I misread your post
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
In Chicago...
A person is shot every 2:03
hr min
A person is murdered every 10:58
hr min
Think about that.
A person is shot every 2:03
hr min
A person is murdered every 10:58
hr min
Think about that.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:00 pm to RLDSC FAN
Explain to me the correlation between murder numbers and budget cuts to the agency tasked with solving murders. There is none.
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
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LAPD’s elite Robbery/Homicide division now being downsized.
I think LA’s RHD has been getting gradually downsized for the past 20 years. Whenever it’s not getting downsized, then restrictions are put in place limiting overtime and the ability to assign multiple detective teams to cases.
All of which really hampers investigations of major cases, and causes a backlog of the more routine gangland type shootings.
Plus additional cuts to the crime lab which further hampers investigations by creating huge delays in processing DNA, blood work, fingerprints, and ballistics.
Most competent detectives pull the pin and retire as soon as they can. The hassle and politics isn’t worth it.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:06 pm to RLDSC FAN
Another glorious Democrat-run city.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:07 pm to GardenDistrictTiger
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Explain to me the correlation between murder numbers and budget cuts to the agency tasked with solving murders. Their is none.
The budget cuts are across the board. It has been proven time and time again with studies that the more uniformed officers on the streets, the bigger the deterrent they are. Removing those officers can only have a negative impact. Placing the same policing burden on a smaller number of officers, particularly when the overtime budget has been slashed doesn't help.
No, the budget cuts aren't directly causing more people to kill people, but they are making it easier to get away with it.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The budget cuts are across the board. It has been proven time and time again with studies that the more uniformed officers on the streets, the bigger the deterrent they are
No, police were fully funded in the 90s and murder rates were sky high. Most cities today if they have cut budgets its only been in the last 6 months due to diminished tax collections due to covid. But homicide rates have been rising for the last 2 years. This is not related to policing tactics or budgets but to some sort of sociological change. There are many theories of what is causing this rise but no one knows what is really causing it. To say it's budgets ignores facts and is an attempt at political point scoring.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
This is the progress we so desperately need.
Democrat solutions for the modern world.
Democrat solutions for the modern world.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 11:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
Was hoping it would be in the millions
Posted on 11/22/20 at 11:30 pm to lazy
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sort of sociological change. There are many theories of what is causing this rise but no one knows what is really causing it.
Interesting. I know homicides were down the past 15 or so years. Early To mid 90’s were rough and then things got better.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 11:41 pm to Paul Allen
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Interesting. I know homicides were down the past 15 or so years. Early To mid 90’s were rough and then things got better.
Yes and all police forces claimed it was their community policing techniques that brought down murder rates. But different cities were using different techniques but rates dropped everywhere. It's been a point of debate amongst researchers as to what lead to the drops but the best explanation I've heard is gangs realized slaughtering each other was not best business practices. I think now, those guys are now old and out of the business so these young guys don't know these lessons and so are reverting to the old gutteral instincts. Again, nobody really knows but if I were a young criminal justice PhD candidate I would be researching this. Probably would end up dead but maybe a police station would be named after me.
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