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LinkedIn Founder Reid Hoffman on the biggest lie employers tell employees

Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:49 am
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:49 am
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In his new book The Alliance, Reid Hoffman argues that the relationship between employers and employees is built on "a dishonest conversation."

Hoffman would know. As co-founder and executive chairman of LinkedIn, he sits atop the largest, most data-rich hiring platform the world has ever seen. As a venture capitalist who made early investments in everything from Facebook to Airbnb, he's helped some of the era's most successful companies grow.

And now he wants both workers and employers to begin having honest conversations with each other — conversations that admit employment isn't for life, that loyalty only lasts so long as it coincides with self-interest, and that the relationship doesn't have to end when the worker leaves.

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"The biggest lie is that the employment relationship is like family," Hoffman says.

"You don't fire your kid because of bad grades," Hoffman says.


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Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:09 pm to
Man knows the truth
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112279 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:12 pm to
Well duh

It's all a charade
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:14 pm to
Did he clarify that only is true in the private sector?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:15 pm to
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And now he wants both workers and employers to begin having honest conversations with each other — conversations that admit employment isn't for life, that loyalty only lasts so long as it coincides with self-interest, and that the relationship doesn't have to end when the worker leaves.


Who thinks otherwise? Employment is a business contract, and every day is an option period.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Who thinks otherwise?

A good number of boomers.

Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Who thinks otherwise? Employment is a business contract, and every day is an option period.


The same people who pad their resumes with languages and platforms they've never used to try to cover up that they're clueless.

People seem to overvalue their worth and ignore the fact that, at the end of the day, anyone can be replaced without much hassle. I don't want to go hug my coworkers and form lasting relationships. I'm in there trying to further my career and make money, period. Anything extra is a perk, but as long as the environment isn't toxic, I'm not really looking for too much else.

Really, it's the same people that these types of quotes always apply to. They live life as if they're a special little snowflake with tons of unfulfilled potential and ignorant to any reason or realism. They're not going to gain anything from reading this, either, because they've already checked out of reality.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:51 pm to
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The same people who pad their resumes with languages and platforms they've never used to try to cover up that they're clueless.


Real technical interview I did:

Me: "I see that you have C#, PHP, and Python on your resume. What can you tell me about object oriented programming?"

Applicant: "Oh I don't know anything about that."

Me: "......."
Posted by drewnbrla
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:59 pm to
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"a dishonest conversation."


This is pretty much the definition of an interview.

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loyalty only lasts so long as it coincides with self-interest


I thought this was a well understood concept, apparently I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted by drewnbrla
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:04 pm to
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People seem to overvalue their worth and ignore the fact that, at the end of the day, anyone can be replaced without much hassle.


Exactly this. I always approach every day as if it is my last and that I need to prove why I deserve to be able to come in tomorrow instead of someone else.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:19 pm to
I was hired for an outside sales job of something very specific. I ended up doing IT work and being a secretary for an office that didn't even sell what I was hired to sell. I'd say that was a lie. That lasted all of a month and a half and I walked out
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21451 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:19 pm to
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4) Employers put too much weight on interviews, and too little weight on references


Our HR is supposed to check references and I've been told previous employers will now only confirm employment. This on the advice of lawyers as a results of lawsuits from disputed negative references. True or not, I don't know.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:22 pm to
I agree to a point. We try to maintain a family environment but we don't HAVE to keep the shitty family members which is where the "familiness" diverges.

I have some relatives I have "fired" by never seeing so it is not all that dissimilar.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51247 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Who thinks otherwise?


The Baby Boomer generation. Millenials understand this point.
Posted by Anfield Road
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:29 pm to
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"You don't fire your kid because of bad grades," Hoffman says.


But you can fire your wife.
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