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re: LeVar Burton shocked to discover he's descended from a Confederate soldier
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:16 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:16 am to Darth_Vader
It’s like that skit from Dave Cheppelle!
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:16 am to Darth_Vader
One of my great grandfathers was a klan leader on the West Bank back in the day. When I found out, I thought, "Wow, that's interesting."
It literally has no bearing on anything. Unless you're adopted, looking up your family history is pointless.
It literally has no bearing on anything. Unless you're adopted, looking up your family history is pointless.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:17 am to Darth_Vader
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Exactly. Even something as simple as Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address would seem like a foreign language to the average 20 year old today.
Yeah, this is why I always laugh at lefties who claim the constitution doesn't say x or y because it's not explicitly laid out in 21st century 4th grade reading level English.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:18 am to imjustafatkid
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What are the literacy rates for non blacks today (which is what your chart shows)? I suspect they aren't far off from that 90% number, but I'm sure I could be wrong.
The numbers aren’t pretty for either black or white.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:20 am to ELVIS U
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his name was really Toby
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:21 am to canyon
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he pay
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:24 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:28 am to Darth_Vader
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fought to protect the institution of slavery
Not all of them did. In fact, most of them probably didn't.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 8:32 am
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:32 am to Darth_Vader
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I just quoted the story. I know slavery was a big issue that lead to the Civil War, that cannot be denied. But it was not the sole reason for the Civil War, nor was it what motivated the vast majority of Southern men and Northern men who didn’t even own slaves or care anything about it to take up arms.
Yeah, slavery was far down the list of reasons the average confederate soldier fought. Number one reason for many soldiers was that they were conscripted or faced heavy societal pressures to enlist. If you were a young man during that war, your only choice was to fight.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:34 am to Privateer 2007
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But, do people really believe...
1) war was over solely slavery
2)hundreds of thousands of men in a nation of what 20-30 million would take up arms over slavery?
Some do, and some try to say it was a minor issue, but neither is correct. However, it is clear that slavery was the driving issue for at least most of the southern state governments, at least. All the states that published a document outlining their reasons for secession specifically listed slavery as the principal reason and in some cases the sole reason the state legislature chose to secede But not all states published such a document.
In terms of why most fought for either side, there is much more variance. Anything from simple conscription regardless of their desire, lack of work opportunities, allegiance to their State as the primary seat of governance (as I think the founders intended), etc. For most soldiers on both sides, I suspect the institution of slavery was not their motivation.
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There's slavery all over middle east, Africa, and Asia nowadays. I don't see anybody taking up arms.
Not institutional slavery in any of those places that I know of with the possible exception of China and their prison labor system.
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You fought for where you lived. Like 95+% fought for state they lived in.
Even a few West Point graduates struggled over this and decided that their first allegiance lay with their state. Robert E. Lee was offered the command of the Federal forces in April 1861. Lee declined and tendered his resignation from the army when the state of Virginia seceded on April 17, arguing that he could not fight against his own people. Lee had been the superintendent of West Point from 1852 to 1855. Our countrymen's identity at the time lay primarily with the State rather than the Federal government.
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Very few people owned slaves in the South.
That is true but quite a few of the legislators did.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:34 am to Darth_Vader
Kunta Kinta "AWKWARD!"
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:36 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Yeah, slavery was far down the list of reasons the average confederate soldier fought. Number one reason for many soldiers was that they were conscripted or faced heavy societal pressures to enlist. If you were a young man during that war, your only choice was to fight.
Some enlisted to fight for the CSA because of the actions of the Union Army itself. Some joined simply because they were young, stupid, and longed for adventure.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:38 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:39 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Some enlisted to fight for the CSA because of the actions of the Union Army itself. Some joined simply because they were young, stupid, and longed for adventure.
Yep, if an army is marching through your fields, you fight -- the reason they are there be damned.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:47 am to Darth_Vader
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I just quoted the story. I know slavery was a big issue that lead to the Civil War, that cannot be denied. But it was not the sole reason for the Civil War, nor was it what motivated the vast majority of Southern men and Northern men who didn’t even own slaves or care anything about it to take up arms.
It certainly was a big issue, but like you said, not the only issue or reason why most fought. The victors generally write the history and it sounds better to say it was all about freeing the slaves. We just weren't that noble. It is nice to say we were, but we weren't.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:11 am to Darth_Vader
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LeVar Burton
Prepare to be canceled by the woke mob
You’re certainly welcome to join my SCV chapter, Kunta Kinte
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:16 am to Darth_Vader
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The numbers aren’t pretty for either black or white.
That chart is a complete indictment of the Department of Education and the amount we spend on "education" in this nation.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:17 am to Rouge
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In an age of cancel culture, I am still baffled that the University of Mississippi mascot has lasted.
We all are
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:19 am to DarthRebel
What you got against black bears? You racist or something?
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:26 am to Darth_Vader
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This is a myth that won’t die. Literacy rates in the US were higher in 1850, over 90%, than they are today, 79%.
You need to read what I wrote. Literacy <> proper schooling and access to communication/information.
The ability to read, does not grant them wisdom or knowledge of right and wrong. Just because they can read, does not mean they had access to understand the nuances of the "War of Northern Aggression".
Most of the men fighting learned to read/write and then stopped their schooling. That was a thing in the USA, as late as the 1950s.
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