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re: Let's talk about Bruce Lee
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:07 pm to brgfather129
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:07 pm to brgfather129
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:32 pm to stuntman
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I knew he was into western boxing, but never heard much about his wrestling or judo. Also, the kicks that I've seen him throw in competition (the few that I've seen) look like he's hitting w/ his foot, not his shin.
I have never heard of him competing in any kind of grappling tournament.
ETA; No doubt he was ahead of his time. I was just commenting on his chances against today's MMA pros.
I tend to try to stay away from those arguments from people who don't train.
In Tao of Jeet Kune Do Bruce diagrams and explains the importance of wrestling and grappling and has a section with "jujitsu and judo" techniques.
He has clinch work, single and double leg takedowns, judo throws, and joint locks and chokes diagrammed in there.
He also studied fencing extensively. Dude got it. I doubt he ever competed in grappling, but he did armbar Kareem in a movie, and Judo Gene Lebell said he often trained at his gym in pure Judo and helped gene with demonstrations by shoulder throwing the much larger LeBell
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:34 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
He would be bottom tier on the O-T.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:38 pm to SabiDojo
Well yeah we are all at least 6'5" 260 five percent body fat 4.5 forty with black belts in every martial arts and a 500 pound bench press with an md
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:47 pm to theenemy
LINK
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Van Damme Humbled by Rourke Ex-Bodyguard
by Daniel Frankel Thu., Feb. 5, 1998 6:10 PM PST
Word spread quickly through Manhattan about a Wednesday night celebrity barroom brawl involving action star Jean-Claude Van Damme and a former bodyguard for not-much-action star Mickey Rourke.
A spokesperson for the upscale topless bar Score's--infamous hangout for the likes of Howard Stern and his cronies--confirms there were indeed fisticuffs involving the parties.
No police report was taken and no arrests were made. Publicists for both Van Damme and Rourke refused to return phone calls on Thursday.
However, Friday's New York news tabloids were breathless with details, not to mention quotes from the I-Decked-Van-Damme man himself.
"He's just a very arrogant and disrespectful person," says Chuck Zito, the ex-bodyguard (who reportedly also worked for Jean-Claude, as well as Sylvester Stallone, Sean Penn and Charlie Sheen), sometime stuntman and current president of the Hell's Angels, in the New York Post. Zito claims responsibility for the Van Damme clocking.
Trouble started when Van Damme walked into Score's with Rourke. Zito walked over to the table to shoot the breeze with his former bosses.
When Zito and Rourke turned their back on Van Damme, the Street Fighter star reputedly started dissing Zito.
"He was saying, 'Chuck Zito doesn't have any heart,'" Zito tells the newspaper. "There are people who will take that kind of abuse. I am not one of them."
So, Zito asked Van Damme to step outside. The way Zito puts it in the Daily News, the so-called Muscles from Brussels took off his glasses and was "gearing up to come at me."
"I just didn't give him a chance," Zito says.
No, he didn't. Zito floored Mr. Hard Target with a one-two suckerpunch combo.
Rourke played peacemaker: "If I weren't there, Chuck would have killed him," the actor tells the Daily News.
Van Damme left the club under his own power, reportedly signing autographs on the way out.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:52 pm to Kafka
So Van Damme is susceptible to sucker punches before having a fight broke up?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:53 pm to Kafka
So he got sucker punched I always thought chuck whooped his arse without any bs like that.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:55 pm to Kafka
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Damme left the club under his own power, reportedly signing autographs on the way out.
Who wants his autograph??
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:56 pm to Vegas Eddie
In '98? That was like a IOU for pussy.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:59 pm to fightin tigers
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In '98?
Missed that part
Carry on
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:03 pm to KBeezy
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I tend to try to stay away from those arguments from people who don't train.
I definitely understand that. Just for information's sake, I'm a brown belt in bjj (no gi) and have been training in mma for 9 years.
Wierd thing is, I'm JUST now getting into the gi.
Do you know if there are any stories about how good he was in the grappling game?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:08 pm to Jake88
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Tyson was one of the most overrated boxers in history. His career is filled with fighters that were too young or too old at the time they fought him and just mediocre fighters during a time of weak heavyweights.
Um, no.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:11 pm to AlaTiger
Why was his son killed?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:12 pm to Vegas Eddie
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Why was his son killed?
Because being a prop slinger doesn't require a knowledge of ballistics.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:14 pm to fightin tigers
So just live ammo by mistake?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:16 pm to Vegas Eddie
Cant remember exactly, but there was never live ammo. Some sort of powder charge combined with a projectile lodged in the barrel.
Basically made a bullet, but it was lack of understanding on the prop department end.
Basically made a bullet, but it was lack of understanding on the prop department end.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:18 pm to fightin tigers
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Cant remember exactly, but there was never live ammo. Some sort of powder charge combined with a projectile lodged in the barrel.
Basically made a bullet, but it was lack of understanding on the prop department end.
Damn, talk about bad luck
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:20 pm to Vegas Eddie
Yeah, was a gut shot I think. Had to be crazy on the set. Everyone just thinking he is really selling the scene.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:48 pm to jmarto1
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Wasn't Ip one of his instructors?
Watch the movies Ip Man and Ip Man 2, Chinese films. Made within the past 5 or 6 years. Fun martial arts movies.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:50 pm to stuntman
Never heard of anyone belted in no gi
I've never read anything of how good he was, or wasn't. Only him training. I did read something about him saying he didn't think grappling could be a spectator sport because of the slow pace
Judging by crowd reactions in Mma events when the fight hits the ground I would say he was right for the most part
I've never read anything of how good he was, or wasn't. Only him training. I did read something about him saying he didn't think grappling could be a spectator sport because of the slow pace
Judging by crowd reactions in Mma events when the fight hits the ground I would say he was right for the most part
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