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Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:50 am to BACONisMEATcandy
Harahs is not on the river
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:50 am to Lsu4life42
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No it ain't wrong board since your governor is trying to take our Tigers football away.
Then it's still the wrong board
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:53 am to mikelbr
quote:How long will it take for the common voter and politicians to realize that the education problem is not on anyone but the parents at home.
Weren't the Casinos in BR and Nola supposed to fix the entire state's education woes? 20 years later, We now have about 20 casinos and our public education still sucks donkey dicks.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:55 am to sjmabry
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RA'd for wrong board.
So we can't talk about legalizing marijuana here? GTFO dude
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:55 am to Lsu4life42
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Colorado made over a billion dollars from marijuana sales.
Link?
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:56 am to MontyFranklyn
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How long will it take for the common voter and politicians to realize that the education problem is not on anyone but the parents at home.
I'm just recalling the debate back then. Teacher salaries were going to be above national average, new schools errywhere, etc.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:00 am to LSU8654722
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4. Anyone arrested for possession or distribution of marijuana before it's legalized has to serve the remainder of their sentence.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:08 am to biglego
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Harahs is not on the river
The law contained an exception allowing one "land-based" casino in New Orleans.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:13 am to fr33manator
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Wait, you'd want to punish people who used a legal product on their own time? You realize it can still be detected in your system LONG after the effects have worn off, right?
Not punish, just maintain the norm. There are tons of people who currently smoke marijuana and get drug tested, and somehow they maintain employment...
This is also the real reason why it hasn't been done. There are some jobs that, for safety reasons, require the employee to be drug free. Mainly because deadly accidents can occur. That needs to remain in place. However the legal aspects that will arise from an accident by someone testing positive for a "legal substance" will be huge. So having anyone currently drug testing to continue after "legalization" is probably the best effort at meeting half way on the matter. You would also have to get rid of the insurance "discount" companies get by drug testing their employees. Test or no test (for marijuana), it should be same price either way. I'm not a lawyer, so I couldn't begin to form the legal language necessary for something like that. But I know it's the only thing holding legalization back.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:24 am to BACONisMEATcandy
They really should just implement an identical system as Colorado. As a consumer for over half my life now, it's a wonderfully put together system. Penalties are very strong for dispensaries that sell to minors. In fact, not a single dispensary in the state has been caught selling to a minor, and not from lack of effort from regulators. They've tried dozens of sting operations, and never made it in the door.
I can't speak for the billion dollar sales number. But sales did reach $100 million in August, and $40+ million were medical sales, which is only locals.
LINK
They did take in so much more taxes than anticipated, a clause in the Colorado constitution required citizens to vote on if they could keep the taxes after they underestimated the tax revenue (we kept the taxes, and have them to the schools and for park maintenance.
Colorado has definitely benefited economically from being the first state to legalize. Tourism has had a big boom. If Louisiana did the same thing early, it would also radio similar benefits, having such a large tourism industry. Those numbers will tend to shrink ad it becomes legal nationwide (which is happening, whether you agree or not).
One interesting fact Colorado learned about legalization. The rate of use didn't change. People who smoke smoked, those who don't didn't smoke. Most people by their mid 20s have figured out if they like it or not. There are still industries that test workers, so that's probably a big influence. You might have some start smoking once the federal drug free work place act is amended. But that's still several years away.
I can't speak for the billion dollar sales number. But sales did reach $100 million in August, and $40+ million were medical sales, which is only locals.
LINK
They did take in so much more taxes than anticipated, a clause in the Colorado constitution required citizens to vote on if they could keep the taxes after they underestimated the tax revenue (we kept the taxes, and have them to the schools and for park maintenance.
Colorado has definitely benefited economically from being the first state to legalize. Tourism has had a big boom. If Louisiana did the same thing early, it would also radio similar benefits, having such a large tourism industry. Those numbers will tend to shrink ad it becomes legal nationwide (which is happening, whether you agree or not).
One interesting fact Colorado learned about legalization. The rate of use didn't change. People who smoke smoked, those who don't didn't smoke. Most people by their mid 20s have figured out if they like it or not. There are still industries that test workers, so that's probably a big influence. You might have some start smoking once the federal drug free work place act is amended. But that's still several years away.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:25 am to JimMorrison
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Link?
I think the dude was confused. They SOLD almost $1 billion in product during 2015. They saw $135 million in taxes/fees. I think most of that goes to education there, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:26 am to Barf
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Barf
If you're caught doing 70mph in a 60mph zone, but you get pulled over in a 70mph zone. You still get the ticket for speeding. Just because you weren't breaking the law in the 70mph zone, doesn't mean you weren't back in the 60mph zone.
You broke the law back then, so you get the punishment that was in place back then. Not to mention the nightmare of appeals that would definitely clog up the court system for months because sometimes a possession charge is tacked onto another crime. Then you'd have to re-sentence probably over 100K criminals. It's much easier on the tax payer to say, "Do the time. No appeals. Smoke up when you get out."
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:29 am to LSU8654722
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Not punish, just maintain the norm. There are tons of people who currently smoke marijuana and get drug tested, and somehow they maintain employment...
This is also the real reason why it hasn't been done. There are some jobs that, for safety reasons, require the employee to be drug free. Mainly because deadly accidents can occur. That needs to remain in place. However the legal aspects that will arise from an accident by someone testing positive for a "legal substance" will be huge. So having anyone currently drug testing to continue after "legalization" is probably the best effort at meeting half way on the matter. You would also have to get rid of the insurance "discount" companies get by drug testing their employees. Test or no test (for marijuana), it should be same price either way. I'm not a lawyer, so I couldn't begin to form the legal language necessary for something like that. But I know it's the only thing holding legalization back.
So...much...fail.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:29 am to JimMorrison
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Colorado made over a billion dollars from marijuana sales.
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link?
How about from Fortune?
A billion dollar industry... in one state
Yeah, y'all are fricking missing out.
Now excuse me, I'm gonna go to the store, and buy a quarter bag of Sour Diesel for $40-50 ($60-80 less than in the south), and help out the local schools instead of the black market.
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:30 am to CCTider
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Colorado has definitely benefited economically from being the first state to legalize. Tourism has had a big boom. If Louisiana did the same thing early, it would also radio similar benefits, having such a large tourism industry. Those numbers will tend to shrink ad it becomes legal nationwide (which is happening, whether you agree or not).
As an outsider, the only thing that would make New Orleans more popular would be legal weed. LA is pretty stupid for letting their politics/dogma/stupid constituents ruin a pretty huge revenue stream. Just like most states, unfortunately.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:32 am to ocelot4ark
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As an outsider, the only thing that would make New Orleans more popular would be legal weed. LA is pretty stupid for letting their politics/dogma/stupid constituents ruin a pretty huge revenue stream. Just like most southern states, unfortunately.
Fify
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:33 am to CCTider
The Port of New Orleans could make a huge impact if marijuana was legalized in LA
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:37 am to ocelot4ark
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So...much...fail.
Care to explain why?
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:42 am to tzimme4
There's one MAJOR thing that I haven't seen anyone mention in these threads, is the non marijuana tax influence on the state government. Here's an example...
Marijuana is having a very positive impact on other sectors of the economy. Advertising, containers made that follow exit packaging requirements, real estate in the commercial and warehouses (warehouses are in dramatic shortage and are very expensive in Denver.
Not to forget, business taxes paid by dispensaries, growers, concentrate and edible manufacturers. Plus income taxes on every employee in the industry (which weren't paying any taxes before). Those numbers aren't included in the marijuana tax revenue numbers that are published. The overall impact is much greater than the punished numbers suggest.
Marijuana is having a very positive impact on other sectors of the economy. Advertising, containers made that follow exit packaging requirements, real estate in the commercial and warehouses (warehouses are in dramatic shortage and are very expensive in Denver.
Not to forget, business taxes paid by dispensaries, growers, concentrate and edible manufacturers. Plus income taxes on every employee in the industry (which weren't paying any taxes before). Those numbers aren't included in the marijuana tax revenue numbers that are published. The overall impact is much greater than the punished numbers suggest.
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