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re: LEAP results: EBR continues to decline
Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:04 pm to I am GLORIOUS
Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:04 pm to I am GLORIOUS
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Hopefully St. George will follow suit.
I heard the representative for St. George on the radio nearing the vote.
he was asked "if you could just give up everything and get the schools, your original goal, would you concede everything else?"
he said no
that attitude is why we don't have it.
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:08 pm to I am GLORIOUS
Racist resulrs
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:34 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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Dunno. Blacks kept to themselves mostly. Just as tragic for them as they had to wake up early and go to a school they never knew existed. Not much old school spirit for them. It wasnt their neighborhood.
Yeah, another downside of busing: those kids had to catch the bus home after school, so couldn't stay around to play sports, which might have helped ingrain them into the school community. Baker got some really talented athletes from Scotlandville that played football and ran track, and we were close enough for them to get rides home and for their parents to watch games. Our Band improved too.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:07 pm to Whoopdedo_LSU
Ascension Parish always seems to score high despite factoring in the under performing west bank of the parish. An argument could be crafted that AP challenges St Tammany as the best school district in the state.
Tax money doing work in AP, at least with education concerns.
Tax money doing work in AP, at least with education concerns.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:11 pm to Amadeo
Ascension is pumping a lot of resources into Donaldsonville area trying to pull those scores up. That is what is holding them back really.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:25 pm to TheFlyingTiger
SG initially went to the legislature trying to get the ISD, and they were rebuffed twice. They were told they had to incorporate first.
That's what started the incorporation idea.
The fact is there has been no SG vote is because the status quo has fought the movement tooth and nail. First the ISD and now the city.
That's what started the incorporation idea.
The fact is there has been no SG vote is because the status quo has fought the movement tooth and nail. First the ISD and now the city.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:27 pm to Amadeo
Except they are 2nd best to Zachary school district.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:54 pm to doubleb
St. George is never going to happen. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE for it to happen: I live in the area and have a seven month old; I'd benefit massively. But, alas, it's not going to happen.
The organization against St. George is too great--just look at the recent annexations of the mall of Louisiana, L'Auberge, OLOL, and the Siegen Marketplace businesses. It's my opinion that they're gutting the tax base necessary for St. George to have any shot at success.
I truly hope I am wrong.
The organization against St. George is too great--just look at the recent annexations of the mall of Louisiana, L'Auberge, OLOL, and the Siegen Marketplace businesses. It's my opinion that they're gutting the tax base necessary for St. George to have any shot at success.
I truly hope I am wrong.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:07 pm to lnomm34
That's the perception, and it'd be hard to argue otherwise.
Someone needs to run the numbers to see what it all means. The base has shrunk, but how much?
The hospitals don't matter, I believe they do not pay property taxes and they did keep all of the Mall anchor stores. How much of a hit were these annexations? I don't know, but PR wise it hurt.
But forces opposing SG aren't sleeping. They are sggressive.
Someone needs to run the numbers to see what it all means. The base has shrunk, but how much?
The hospitals don't matter, I believe they do not pay property taxes and they did keep all of the Mall anchor stores. How much of a hit were these annexations? I don't know, but PR wise it hurt.
But forces opposing SG aren't sleeping. They are sggressive.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:13 pm to lnomm34
I really want it to pass as well. Moved to Houston last year and wanted to get back to family in Baton Rouge eventually, but it's such a crapshow from the outside looking in. Can't justify moving back and stifling my career path, when I'll have to pay private school and state income tax.
The status quo defense is nauseating, but luckily they're being led by Weston-Broome now, so SG might just happen!
The status quo defense is nauseating, but luckily they're being led by Weston-Broome now, so SG might just happen!
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:14 pm to doubleb
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The fact is there has been no SG vote is because the status quo has fought the movement tooth and nail
Well, they now realize what the loss of Zachary and Central has done to the school system as a whole, and SG is the last such area remaining. If SG goes, there's really nothing positive left.
Baker, which began the whole separate system movement in EBRP, did it too late. EBRP doesn't want them back.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:15 pm to lnomm34
from my understanding the SG boundaries have shrunk. By a good bit. Even then those annexations are hurting its chances.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:19 pm to tke857
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from my understanding the SG boundaries have shrunk. By a good bit. Even then those annexations are hurting its chances
For sure. The gungho supporters of the movement can say what they want publicly, but they have to see the writing on the wall. I am disappointed to say the least. But I'm not white-flighting it out of here. I really like where I live. I'll just suck it up and pay the private school tuition and watch my property taxes get wasted.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:26 pm to Mung
Problem is that they want to hold onto the status quo, and demand higher taxes for it, without doing a goddamn thing to really fix the issues.
People in the St George area are still going to continue the past trends of going to private/parochial schools if they can afford it or picking up and moving to better school systems if not.
People in the St George area are still going to continue the past trends of going to private/parochial schools if they can afford it or picking up and moving to better school systems if not.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:33 pm to lnomm34
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The gungho supporters of the movement can say what they want publicly, but they have to see the writing on the wall.
I appreciate the honesty in your posts, but I see it a different way. I think that they are shrinking the footprint in response to what happened last time. They saw that they were called racist even though they tried to incorporate every bit of the unincorporated areas. If you're going to be called racists either way, it might as well just encompass the area you have the most support. It will probably pass this time, and as people see it flourish, the neighboring areas will request SG annexation.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:45 pm to Loungefly85
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You can have a school with extremely qualified teachers and a blank check for funding, but if it's filled with culcha it will still be a shithole and a failing school.
100% truth.
Upvoted and reposted.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:23 pm to Mung
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Well, they now realize what the loss of Zachary and Central has done to the school system as a whole, a
Honestly, they are fighting for money and power. They don't care about the schools.
There are millions of tax dollars at stake, and control over those dollars and who decides how they are spent is the real impetus.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:35 pm to Huck Finn
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I appreciate the honesty in your posts, but I see it a different way. I think that they are shrinking the footprint in response to what happened last time. They saw that they were called racist even though they tried to incorporate every bit of the unincorporated areas. If you're going to be called racists either way, it might as well just encompass the area you have the most support. It will probably pass this time, and as people see it flourish, the neighboring areas will request SG annexation.
God, I hope you are right. I'm serious when I say, I'll sign the petition and vote for it. I want this to happen. It would be a great thing for me and my family. Like I mentioned above, I live in the area and I don't plan on moving either way. The moves that those opposing St. George have made make me seriously doubt that it will come to fruition.
Again, I hope I'm wrong!
Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:57 pm to Huck Finn
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I appreciate the honesty in your posts, but I see it a different way. I think that they are shrinking the footprint in response to what happened last time. They saw that they were called racist even though they tried to incorporate every bit of the unincorporated areas. If you're going to be called racists either way, it might as well just encompass the area you have the most support. It will probably pass this time, and as people see it flourish, the neighboring areas will request SG annexation.
I think you are partially right.
I think they know where their supporters are from the first time, and large areas that didn't support them will be left out the next try.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:04 pm to LSURussian
Socioeconomics. Cause you can't say it's strictly the race demographics.
Zachary is right at 50-50.
Zachary is right at 50-50.
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