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Lean Six Sigma - Anyone Tried This?

Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:33 am
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
3759 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:33 am
A coworker of mine is trying to get a bunch of folks to join in with him and do this. Has anyone tried it?

Looking at an overview of the course, it looks like everything I learned as a business major. Of course, if you weren't a business major (coworker was not), I can see how this would be eye opening concepts.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 7:31 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:34 am to
I've tried it. Only lost like 2 pounds. Lean my arse.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:34 am to
I did it for the black belt.

People don't frick with you when you wear a black belt.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32713 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:36 am to
They are resume builders.

In my experience, every LEAN initiative that someone fresh from six sigma training tries to implement is needlessly burdensome and ultimately is reversed in a month or two.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18287 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:36 am to
Yeah I hate how much they brag on themselves. And "we dumped him in the ocean" my arse.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4087 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:39 am to


Instead just declare everything efficient and call it day why don't you.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:41 am to
Six sigma suckssssss.

GE pioneered it. GE doesn't use it anymore. Think about that.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
3759 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:41 am to
quote:

They are resume builders.


That was my initial thought as well.

I mean, it seems like you do better just going to a CC and taking a few legitimate business courses over dumping $500+ per "belt" of this program.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58146 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:42 am to
Did it 15 years ago. Seemed to me that unless you are in a heavy manufacturing situation, it's just fluff.

I was in contracts mgmt at the time and part of the assignment was to go with some consultants for the Navy to help implement lean at a very small shop. It was embarrassing to be there and have to watch the owner of the small company shut down his production while his employees sat in a conference room listening to this crap and having them do games making paper airplanes to apply learnings in speeding up the process
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12438 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:42 am to
I have the black belt, but have not used it other than the project completed to get it. It is most important to work for a company that knows what it is for, and are prepared to invest in it. You will learn more about statistics than you ever cared to know, but Minitab is pretty useful for crunching the numbers.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:50 am to
That's the problem with six sigma. The approach itself is fine for what it is intended for. All of these companies bastardizing it into this miraculous decision making tool and trying to apply it to every single thing every single employee does is a massive frick up.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47612 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:51 am to
Lean Six Sigma can be good if you work in manufacturing but Kaizen would be more applicable to most businesses.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
3759 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

have not used it other than the project completed to get it


What field was the project in? Can you see the application of the principles taught as transferable across various different fields? Or, as notiger1997 suggested, is the application pretty much based in manufacturing?

quote:

You will learn more about statistics than you ever cared to know


Sounds like it's more about evaluating and refining processes than management. You can have the best process in the world, but if you don't know how to management, you're back to square 1 of having an inefficient system.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

GE pioneered it.


Motorola
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

GE pioneered it. GE doesn't use it anymore. Think about that.



I have a buddy who works for GE doing Six Sigma, so not sure you're accurate here.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:55 am to
I have 2 hours of TD on my Leader Standard Work baw...
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:00 am to
quote:

GE pioneered it. GE doesn't use it anymore.


This is false.

Motorola created Six Sigma and Toyota created Lean.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27609 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Motorola


Beat me to it.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:05 am to
quote:

It is most important to work for a company that knows what it is for, and are prepared to invest in it. You will learn more about statistics than you ever cared to know, but Minitab is pretty useful for crunching the numbers.


This x1000. The skills learned in Lean Six Sigma have helped us achieve CMMI Level 5 and some Minitab automation has made the process monitoring and maintenance really simple.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22169 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:08 am to
When I was deciding on my engineering major, I saw that Industrial had it as a class. That's all I got.
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