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re: Leak at CF - Donaldsonville, LA
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:16 am to ChuckUFarley
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:16 am to ChuckUFarley
It is not leaking at the tank.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:19 am to threeputtforbogie
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And people think ammonia is going to be a viable "green" fuel for the future...
Yeah, because there has never been an oil or gas leak before….
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:41 am to ChuckUFarley
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This absolutely has to be done. Ammonia has a very high vapor content. Thats why its so dangerous. They could get a new flange sent overnight. However, they may have overpressurized the tank causing a failure in which case the tank would have to be replaced as well. Seems to happen a lot at CF
You don’t have much of a clue as to what you are talking about.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:51 am to threeputtforbogie
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And people think ammonia is going to be a viable "green" fuel for the future...
Aramco is already shipping as much Blue Ammonia as they can make to Japan
CF is looking to build a ~$2.5B facility near Donaldsonville and another company is exploring a ~$7.5B facility next to the new CF facility.
When NH3 is burned in a furnace, there is Zero carbon emissions. That's what these people are after.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:52 am to Cuz413
Leak is over
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:18 pm to ChuckUFarley
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am just the supplier. We are not the contractors that do the installation or the ones filling the tanks. There are lots of factors that could cause the issue. If it is the flange, it is likely that they had too much pressure going into the tank. Bad news is that most new tanks are about a 12 week lead time.
Lol at all this. You may be selling some small tanks but the ammonia storage tanks are gigantic… like 50000 tons. They take years to design, build and commission.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:59 pm to ChuckUFarley
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I provide chemical tanks to CF Industries. Hope it wasnt one of ours.
You think they put ammonia in your fricking rental?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:07 pm to ChuckUFarley
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Do you know if the tank was Stainless Steel or Polyethylene?
My man, this was not your tank.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:42 pm to Cuz413
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there is Zero carbon emissions
Why do Democrats hate the environment? What are plants supposed to breathe?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:47 pm to MikeD
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You may be selling some small tanks but the ammonia storage tanks are gigantic… like 50000 tons. They take years to design, build and commission.
We sell plenty of Ammonia tanks. They may be hold tanks for a larger one in some cases. Up to 20,000 gallons, so not just necessarily small tanks. I'm relieved that it's not one of our tanks. I didn't know we had so many tank experts on the board. GTK
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You think they put ammonia in your fricking rental?
Why would you assume that I design/sell rental tanks? We do multimillion dollar projects weekly.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:50 pm to ChuckUFarley
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:59 pm to longhorn22
Crawfish prices going up?
What about truck nut futures?
What about truck nut futures?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:02 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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Why do Democrats hate the environment?
Its for ESG controls over the masses
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What are plants supposed to breathe?
They (Dems) probably believe in Lysenkoism and think the plants will just adapt to lower CO2 levels
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:06 pm to longhorn22
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Students at Ascension Catholic High School were advised to shelter in place, the school said.
You know, with ammonia that is fricking scary.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:14 pm to fightin tigers
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Never left the fenceline.
Fence contains the gas once again. They should build more containers out of the fence material.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:23 pm to Cuz413
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When NH3 is burned in a furnace, there is Zero carbon emissions. That's what these people are after.
Where are they getting their source of H2?
If it's coming form electrolysis via nuclear energy then then the entire process is green. If it's coming form methane then they are still producing CO2 to make the H2 which is really not "green".
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:19 pm to ChuckUFarley
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We sell plenty of Ammonia tanks.
Your aqua ammonia tank is not going to potential create a vapor cloud of ammonia that would require evacuations of schools
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:21 pm to GumboPot
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If it's coming form methane then they are still producing CO2 to make the H2 which is really not "green"
Not if they capture the industrial CO2 and then inject into carbon sequestration…
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:37 pm to ChuckUFarley
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Ammonia has a very high vapor content. Thats why its so dangerous.
You know less than you think you do. This statement is meaningless.
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they may have overpressurized the tank causing a failure in which case the tank would have to be replaced as well. Seems to happen a lot at CF
Based on what? I know of exactly one ammonia storage tank failure in the US due to overpressure. I worked in that plant at the time. It was not CF and was a LONG time ago.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:07 pm to ChuckUFarley
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Up to 20,000 gallons, so not just necessarily small tanks.
1. Uhh.. that’s definitely a small tank.
2. CF Industries Donaldsonville is the largest ammonia producer in the world. I can assure you that they don’t store their 4+ million tons per year of ammonia product in 20,000 gallon Snyder tanks.
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