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re: Lawyer won't remove BLM pin - held in contempt - her statement tho
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:55 pm to ClientNumber9
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:55 pm to ClientNumber9
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1) You've changed your argument from "she was thrown in jail for a lil ole lapel pin?" to something else entirely.
Nah. She was thrown in jail for being in contempt. She was in contempt for refusing to remove a lapel pin, therefore, she was thrown in jail for refusing to remove her lapel pin. I'm sorry that was so difficult for some of you to follow in my first post.
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Now you're arguing that this judge- which you've never even heard of before today- has let other political lapel pins be worn in the courtroom and has chosen to make a stance against BLM. How could you possibly know this? And how can an unknown assumption be the centerpiece of your argument?
Because he did let her wear it the first day, so...
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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Actually, there is. BLM is political, and political shite isn't allowed in the court.
There is no hard and fast rule. It is up to the judge's discretion.
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You're in here doing your usual shtick.
Adding all of the relevant details to the story seems useful, no?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:58 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
I bet the penalties for 8th degree murder are pretty lenient. Probably have to go to tiemout for 20 minutes.
I have a few people I would like to 8th degree murder, LOL
I have a few people I would like to 8th degree murder, LOL
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:59 pm to slackster
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There is no hard and fast rule. It is up to the judge's discretion
It's his fricking rule. It's a hard rule in his court room he can choose to enforce at his discretion.
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Adding all of the relevant details to the story seems useful, no?
Only top you it seems. Everyone else figured it out just fine.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:00 pm to slackster
Yea probably because he feels it's a silly law and has rarely had to enforce it. I doubt he let pins that were as disruptive be worn.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:03 pm to SabiDojo
quote:If a judge tells me to tapdance, you bet your arse I'll be tapdancing.
I guess it's hard for people to understand the degree of deference an attorney is expected to show the court. After every 3rd word we say "Your Honor", we ask for permission to do ANYTHING in THEIR courtroom, and, if you're not familiar with a particular judge, you make DAMN SURE you ask a friend what they are like and how they like to do things.
So, if a judge tells you to take off a pin, you're an idiot if you don't.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:04 pm to SabiDojo
quote:No, it's not, idiot. It's the people's courtroom.
It's the judge's courtroom, so you do what you are told.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:04 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:07 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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If a judge tells me to tapdance, you bet your arse I'll be tapdancing.
An attorney here got his arse chewed out for scheduling a petition to terminate parental rights on an ex parte day (such a petition requires a hearing and clogs up the number of people waiting for ex parte). I mean, he got chewed out. That's just for fricking up the judge's docket. Can you imagine how it would go down if you wear a political pin and refuse to take it off?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:10 pm to SeauxLeauxHeaux
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I doubt he let pins that were as disruptive be worn.
Agreed. The details in the OP and the OP's link are useless. The story makes it seem like the judge asked for it to be removed as soon as he saw it, which IMO is pretty petty, but in fact he let it go for a day. It caused an issue, so he asked for it to be removed. I've got no problem with that whatsoever.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:11 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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If a judge tells me to tapdance, you bet your arse I'll be tapdancing.
I've got no problem with a judge running his courtroom as he sees fit, but as I'm sure you and Sabi can attest, they're still capable of making a petty, yet lawful request.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:21 pm to SabiDojo
quote:I would have loved to be in that courtroom. Could have cut the tension with a knife.
Can you imagine how it would go down if you wear a political pin and refuse to take it off?
While we're talking about courtroom stories. The judge was talking to a defendant while I was waiting for my client to get there. The judge was asking this guy why he hadn't completed any (literally any) of the court-imposed requirements for his sentence. He replied, "I didn't think it was that big of a deal." The entire courtroom went silent in an instant.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:23 pm to airfernando
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No, it's not, idiot. It's the people's courtroom.
Well then big shot, run your ads into any court tomorrow and tell a kissed off judge the he doesn't run the place, the people do.
That judge will rack your arse with haste.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:25 pm to airfernando
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No, it's not, idiot. It's the people's courtroom.
Tell that to a judge's face and see what happens
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:29 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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While we're talking about courtroom stories. The judge was talking to a defendant while I was waiting for my client to get there. The judge was asking this guy why he hadn't completed any (literally any) of the court-imposed requirements for his sentence. He replied, "I didn't think it was that big of a deal." The entire courtroom went silent in an instant.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:33 pm to LucasP
quote:i don't know how i've never seen that but
Sorry but I can't post this enough.
Watched the whole thing.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:39 pm to jbgleason
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I do believe all lives matter. But at this point they don't all matter equally,
Oh? So every black life is treated secondary to everyone else in the world? If anyone honestly believes this can you please post in this thread to explain to me as to why one would honestly believe this?
If a black celebrity dies, do they not get the same attention as celebrities of a different race? When black member of any group passes, do they not get the same respect as the members who are of another race?
If these BLM people honestly think police treat all black people completely different than anyone else they are in their own world. And I am not going to say if it wasn't for the BLM movement the incidents in Dallas & Baton Rouge would not have happened, but I will say it is a lot more likely that it did than it didn't.
With all that said, this dumb bitch is stupid and if I were a judge and could find something to throw in jail for I would do it just because...
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:51 pm to slackster
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It is up to the judge's discretion.
I recall stories of Professor Tom Harrell regaling us on how a judge in NELA used to fine lawyers for wearing Argyle socks in court.
The first thing they taught us in law school was "Don't piss off the judge."
And I'll be damned if people don't still do it. I worked for a judge and some crackhead was FORGING THE JUDGE'S SIGNATURE on releases to take money set aside for her kids in a settlement for their father's death. She had bigger balls than any man I've met to date.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:03 pm to SabiDojo
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Yeah but shouldn't those rules apply equally to people of every race?
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Now that's just SJW talk. You know very well that a judge is going to treat everyone fairly. If you truly believe that some people get treated different than others in a court of law, then you are a sad individual.
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Yeah but shouldn't those rules apply equally to people of every race?
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Of course not. A white male attorney who gets held in contempt for wearing a Trump pin gets told, "Well, you know the rules. No sympathy for you!" while the black or ostrich otherkin who gets held in contempt for wearing a BLM pin or All Men Are Rapists pin gets heralded by the public as martyrs before the altars of injustice and patriarchy.
Now that's just SJW talk. You know very well that a judge is going to treat everyone fairly. If you truly believe that some people get treated different than others in a court of law, then you are a sad individual.
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