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re: Lawyer won't remove BLM pin - held in contempt - her statement tho
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:20 pm to jbgleason
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:20 pm to jbgleason
The lawyer, like many, misinterprets BLM to be a noble effort promoting the broad perseverance of black lives and racial equality. What she doesn't understand is BLM really means kill cops, fry them like bacon, etc.
This is just another example of the left's double standards. You can't fly a rebel flag because of what she believes it stands for, but don't supress her freedom of speech for what you know BLM to stand for.
This is just another example of the left's double standards. You can't fly a rebel flag because of what she believes it stands for, but don't supress her freedom of speech for what you know BLM to stand for.
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:21 pm to SabiDojo
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There are rules for courtroom decorum.
Yeah but shouldn't those rules apply equally to people of every race?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:23 pm to jbgleason
Our laws are designed to take into account something called "community standards". Meaning, New Orleans can have bars open 24 hrs and strip clubs and all that. But Mandeville can vote to limit or exclude those establishments.
Our communities are allowed to set standards on what is acceptable behavior, to an extent. And the black community has decided the value it places on black lives. A murder rate that is 10x that of whites, and a community that says if you tell the police who did it, you'll be next.
They set the bar themselves, and then they blame us for its height?
It reminds me of Cold Mountain:
"They say this war is a cloud on the land. But they make the weather, then they stand in it and the say: shite, it's raining!"
Our communities are allowed to set standards on what is acceptable behavior, to an extent. And the black community has decided the value it places on black lives. A murder rate that is 10x that of whites, and a community that says if you tell the police who did it, you'll be next.
They set the bar themselves, and then they blame us for its height?
It reminds me of Cold Mountain:
"They say this war is a cloud on the land. But they make the weather, then they stand in it and the say: shite, it's raining!"
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:24 pm to LucasP
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Yeah but shouldn't those rules apply equally to people of every race?
Of course not. A white male attorney who gets held in contempt for wearing a Trump pin gets told, "Well, you know the rules. No sympathy for you!" while the black or ostrich otherkin who gets held in contempt for wearing a BLM pin or All Men Are Rapists pin gets heralded by the public as martyrs before the altars of injustice and patriarchy.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:27 pm to SabiDojo
Not the same. There's a difference between
and
Which is an objectively true, biological fact.
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symbolic political expression
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All Men Are Rapists
Which is an objectively true, biological fact.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:28 pm to ClientNumber9
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Funny, I don't recall the standard having a size metric. It is "no political representation". If you let this go, you've opened the door for a bunch of other nonsense. Besides, like another poster noted, she wasn't "thrown in jail" for wearing a pin. She was put in jail for not observing courtroom decorum after repeated warnings from the judge.
As I said, she shouldn't be wearing it. However, I'd be surprised if the judge hasn't let less controversial lapel pins go unchecked.
ETA: If it's a principle thing with the judge, I'm fine, and I hope it is/was.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:30 pm to baybeefeetz
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It means she thinks that he system is broken in that blacks are treated as having less value.
They certainly are...by other blacks.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:32 pm to jbgleason
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But at this point they don't all matter equally
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:34 pm to slackster
Another day, another thread you go the unpopular, and this time straight up wrong, route.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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Another day, another thread you go the unpopular, and this time straight up wrong, route.
Nice to see you too.
FWIW, she wore the pin on Wednesday, in the same court room, and had no issues. Apparently people complained, so the judge asked her to remove it on Friday, and when she declined to do so, she was held in contempt.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:42 pm to slackster
1) You've changed your argument from "she was thrown in jail for a lil ole lapel pin?" to something else entirely.
2) Now you're arguing that this judge- which you've never even heard of before today- has let other political lapel pins be worn in the courtroom and has chosen to make a stance against BLM. How could you possibly know this? And how can an unknown assumption be the centerpiece of your argument?
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I'd be surprised if the judge hasn't let less controversial lapel pins go unchecked.
2) Now you're arguing that this judge- which you've never even heard of before today- has let other political lapel pins be worn in the courtroom and has chosen to make a stance against BLM. How could you possibly know this? And how can an unknown assumption be the centerpiece of your argument?
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:42 pm to slackster
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FWIW, she wore the pin on Wednesday, in the same court room, and had no issues
So breaking the rules once means it's OK to keep doing it?
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Apparently people complained, so the judge asked her to remove it on Friday, and when she declined to do so, she was held in contempt.
Sow what's the fricking problem again?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
I guess it's hard for people to understand the degree of deference an attorney is expected to show the court. After every 3rd word we say "Your Honor", we ask for permission to do ANYTHING in THEIR courtroom, and, if you're not familiar with a particular judge, you make DAMN SURE you ask a friend what they are like and how they like to do things.
So, if a judge tells you to take off a pin, you're an idiot if you don't.
So, if a judge tells you to take off a pin, you're an idiot if you don't.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:48 pm to slackster
Yea, so the guy isn't a douche didn't care at first then realized it was becoming a scene and people took offense and asked her to remove it as the law states you should.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:51 pm to jbgleason
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I do believe all lives matter. But at this point they don't all matter equally," Burton added.
WTF is this supposed to mean?
Reading comprehension is hard.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:51 pm to LNCHBOX
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So breaking the rules once means it's OK to keep doing it?
There is no hard and fast rule that she broke.
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Sow what's the fricking problem again?
There isn't one. The link in the OP was lacking on any significant details. After I read up on it from other sources it is clear the judge determine the order of his court superseded her right to free speech. The original story makes it seem like he took issue with it right away, which is peculiar IMO. The truth is that people were complaining after the first day in court, so he asked her to remove it for the second day. She didn't, and the rest is history.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:53 pm to SeauxLeauxHeaux
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Yea, so the guy isn't a douche didn't care at first then realized it was becoming a scene and people took offense and asked her to remove it as the law states you should.
Precisely. I didn't read that in the OP's link though, so if it was there and I missed it, my apologies.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:53 pm to jbgleason
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I do believe all lives matter. But at this point they don't all matter equally
Which is racism.
Now, I understand the irony - they claim our society does not value all lives equally based on race. But, they do not value all black lives equally - it is abundantly clear, and for stomach turning political opportunism, they only value black lives if a black person is killed by a police offer and/or white person. Those relatively rare incidences are when they value the life, as they obviously do not GAF about all the black lives snuffed out by other blacks.
And this is why this movement must be continually opposed and stamped out. It's racism any which way you want to diagram it.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:54 pm to slackster
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There is no hard and fast rule that she broke.
Actually, there is. BLM is political, and political shite isn't allowed in the court.
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There isn't one.
You're in here doing your usual shtick.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:55 pm to slackster
I only got that from you saying that she wore it the first day 
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