re: Just hung up from the worst phone call ever

Sounds like a lost cause if the family has given up on her, I'm sure they've tried plenty if it's a decent family.

Let her go and move on.

What does she need?

Is she looking for a rehab? is she homeless? does she have kids she is trying to support?

Cause having bipolar disorder makes you do drugs.. she needs to solve the drug problem, then she can get help for the bipolar. her being on drugs made her manic episode that much worse.

She's done rehab and claims to be sober but admitted to our other friend she had been drinking tonight. She doesn't have insurance so she won't go to a doctor or hospital. But a hospital is definitely what she needs.

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Eh, It's a good one but there's ones like r/depression, r/bipolar, r/SuicideWatch, r/anxiety just to name a few for the issues OP described for her friend.

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yeah you right, i was thinking more advice for what punkin should do

I know how you feel. One of my closest HS friends is borderline straight jacket insane. I went off to college while he started working out of HS. He got into some real hardcore drugs that did something to his brain I can't even fathom. He is to the point now where he stays in a rental duplex owned by his parents. No furniture except a filthy chair and a mattress on the floor. Trash all over the place. Just abhorrent living conditions. One side of his face looks like he had a stroke and he has a constant tic in his neck/head region. Scary thing is that he is fully delusional. He has created some strange secret code in his head that he applies to names, song lyrics, etc.. For instance, we had a mutual friend named Trajan. He will nervously scribble the name Trajan and assign some weird looking symbol to every letter and translate it to mean "death to all." If you are brave enough to go around him now....you have to endure the entire time with him translating stuff. He spends hours upon hours sitting alone scribbling stuff out per this code that he asserts was given him by supernatural means. And in his warped mind, he thinks we (his former friend who have tried to reach the old him) are living in his reality and that it all makes perfect sense to us. I am not frightened of much but being around him made me extremely uneasy. So much so that I just gave up hope for him and stopped personally checking on him for concern of my own safety. I do still speak to his mom on occasion but her updates are never good. Eight years after he snapped, they have given up hope for him. They just let him stay in their rental duplex free and pay his water and electric and groceries. They stopped renting the other unit for fear of what he might potentially do to harm someone. They are broken hearted to a degree I can't imagine. I have suggested to her that she have him institutionalized and she knows in her heart that she should. I think she just can't pull that trigger...hoping that she can just hide him away from society and provide for his basic needs. I have seen mental illness in several people but never anything remotely approaching what has happened to him.

My worst was when I broke it off with a long term girlfriend. We lived in different cities so a call was the only option. I have never been dog cussed so much in my life.

Do you know how she is supporting herself?


I was going to recommend some rehab live in facilities that I have contacts to for people that are homeless. They help with both mental and drug disorders. I actually went one time when I lived on the streets and got clean. But if she isn't wanting to get help then I don't know what to say. I will say don't buy into her BS. People that get into situations like that but still maintain have a wherewithal about them that teaches them to manipulate to survive. Good luck.

Well good luck.... Just don't get sucked in yourself. You have enough on your plate