re: Just got through an inspection checkpoint, how are these constitutional again?

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Inspection checkpoints aren't unreasonable

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I bet your law professors just loved you.

none of the 'fishing' checkpoints are constitutional

but hey, free country right? just keep saying it until you believe it

It's constitutional as long as they are systematic. An example would checking every car or every other, etc.

Driving is a privilege, not a right.

Quentin Griffin

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He's saying you're not born with the God-given right to drive a motor vehicle. You have to obtain a license from the state to do so. What's so hard to understand?

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Because in the context of this discussion, the complaint is about whether your God-given rights to not be subjected to unreasonable search and seizure, aka the 4th Amendment, are somehow rendered null and void on account that you are driving a vehicle. So to remark that, well, driving is just privilege, is to suggest that when you are engaged in a "privilege" that you are effectively forfeiting certain "rights." Which of course is a bit of a contradiction, don't you think?

That's kind of the whole crux of the debate. Does that not clarify the point of my inquiry?

Or do you honestly think I don't understand the difference between what is a right and a privilege? Do you think I contend that it is illegal for the state to suspend your driver's license? That would be not understanding the difference of a right and a privilege. But if you believe that, well, driving is simply a privilege therefore you can be subjected to state interference that would otherwise be a fundamental violation of your rights, then I would say that argument needs some substantive clarification. A bit more than simply saying:

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Driving is a privilege, not a right. Constitution protects rights.

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Don't you think?

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My original point was my disagreement over being temporarily detained without cause. Our Supreme Court says its acceptable as you say if its systematic. Delaware v Prouse and all...

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Due to our professions you and I disagree on things. But this I agree. I believe it's a violation of the 4th amendment. I feel during a check point you are not free to leave.
Regardless I feel dui, insurance, vehicle equipment checks are unreasonable and a money grab.

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Thanks for listening. Car inspections ensure that cars on the road are safe for travel. If somebody does not have their car inspected and there is a problem with something that would have been discovered by a basic inspection, it could potentially cause an accident involving me.

Now please tell me how you've made it this far in your life without getting trapped in a corner.

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Please tell me why my car insurance rates were significantly cheaper in Florida (no brake tags) than in Louisiana?

I mean Louisiana has inspections. Shouldn't all the cars be super safe and less accidents occur?

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Just got through an inspection checkpoint, how are these constitutional again?
Just protecting the population from uninspected cars. Wish they would do that here in Houston. The number of "immigrant" junk cars on the road here is a dangerous thing.

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So is that what it is keeping Houston and surrounding area from checkpoints? They want NO part of trying to stop every car passing looking for insurance and ID. They would be bogged down within an hour and have every Mexican in Harris County PISSED!

Constitution or no Constitution, these assholes shouldn't be stopping people arbitrarily, really ever, but certainly not in non-emergency situations.