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Junior Doctors in UK strike over antisocial pay

Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:09 am
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22746 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:09 am
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You can't make this shite up.

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There are more than 55,000 junior doctors in England, around a third of all medical staff. Doctors who belong to the trade union British Medical Association (BMA) have been in a long-running dispute with the government over planned changes to their contracts, which would mean an extension of their standard working hours to include evenings and Saturdays.

At the moment, any hours worked between 7pm and 7am, or at any time over the weekend, are classed as antisocial and are consequently paid more. The contract is being changed to make basic hours (and pay) last from 7am to 10pm, and 7am to 7pm on Saturdays, as part of a government manifesto pledge to create a "seven-day National Health Service."
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 8:12 am
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7122 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:26 am to
if they don't like the conditions, they can strike. You cant force people to work. Let's see who gives in first.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:26 am to
Sounds like they are getting fricked out of overtime pay. What can't I make up?
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:27 am to
The doctors will.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22746 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:28 am to
I agree, I'm just more shocked at how big of some pussies they are in UK. Everyone in the world thinks our doctors and medical workers are overpaid, yet hours worked trump any competitor.

Do I think OT should exist? Sure but most doctors in US work on SALARY!
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 8:30 am
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3136 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:32 am to
Good for them. The impact on a physicians family time should be rewarded by extra pay. How many of you get to eat dinner with your family and tuck your children in? They miss soccer games, recitals and Christmas morning...pay them.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22746 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:34 am to
Y'all are missing the point entirely....this is a socialism gone wrong experiment.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80182 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:37 am to
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this is a socialism gone wrong experiment.


Not yet. The doctors are still bargaining and can strike is they want. When the government forces them to work these hours at gunpoint then you can say it's socialism gone wrong.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3136 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:37 am to
How?
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60254 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:43 am to
I need to move to England. Apparently people only die between 7am and 7pm Monday thru Friday.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22746 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:46 am to
Because they pay their doctors by the hour.
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12509 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:52 am to
Wow I'd love to get paid "overtime" as a physician. What is overtime?
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20360 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:00 am to
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Sure but most doctors in US work on SALARY!


I do not know any doctor who works per hour. Maybe residents that are moonlighting, but that is about it.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4714 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:14 am to
Most per diems are hourly.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19673 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:17 am to
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They miss soccer games, recitals and Christmas morning...pay them.


So do cops, plant workers, EMTs, construction workers, military...
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6566 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:18 am to
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So do cops, plant workers, EMTs, construction workers, military...



Three of those should also be paid more for what they do. I will let you figure our which three.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:20 am to
You have to pay doctors to be antisocial over there?

Mine does it for free.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:15 am to
We see this happening in other countries yet we are going to walk right into the same mess instead of using it as a cautionary tale.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:15 am to
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Good for them. The impact on a physicians family time should be rewarded by extra pay. How many of you get to eat dinner with your family and tuck your children in? They miss soccer games, recitals and Christmas morning...pay them.


This ^ is why I do NOT bitch about physicians in the USA getting paid well. Even when not on call they still get calls at all times of the day/night, 24/7/365. And while they went into the profession knowing this, it still goes on their entire careers and wears them out in every way.

The only thing I bitch about regarding physician pay is when THEY bitch and moan about being "broke" from their Summer vacation home because their Winter one is being renovated and the matching his and her Ferrari's are in the shop for maintenance and the Yacht captain is on vacay.

Socialized Med areas like the UK, the Dr.'s ain't got the bling out of the gate so if they hold out for more, either pay it or start studying on treating yourself.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20360 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:17 am to
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The only thing I bitch about regarding physician pay is when THEY bitch and moan about being "broke" from their Summer vacation home because their Winter one is being renovated and the matching his and her Ferrari's are in the shop for maintenance and the Yacht captain is on vacay.


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